Evidence for God from Science

Turgonian wrote:Thank you! I knew what a plumber was, but I didn't get the rest, because we don't have the same fashion in the Netherlands...I believe. I'll set my brain on the task.

Stringed musical instruments frequently have the note G as one of their strings, but don't get confused with the musical G string. I don't believe there is any relationship to its meaning here - unless FFC can think of one ???
(No FFC, better not even try!)

FFC wrote:

Stringed musical instruments frequently have the note G as one of their strings, but don't get confused with the musical G string. I don't believe there is any relationship to its meaning here - unless FFC can think of one ???
(No FFC, better not even try!)

Judah, have you ever held a blade of grass between your fingers and blew? It makes a rather high pitched whistle...combine that theory with your previous ode to flatulence, add a g-string, and you may have some interesting music indeed.

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.

G-man wrote:LOL... Then add a can of beans and you would have yourself a referee without the need for a whistle... I don't think he would be too popular to hire in games though...

Judah wrote:G-strings are very scanty, exceedingly scanty, underwear that basically covers nothing at the back and only the barest essentials in the front.
The strategically placed fig leaf is an attempt at modesty, presumed to be how the suddenly self-aware and highly embarrassed Adam and Eve tried to cover themselves.

Turgonian wrote:Sorry, FFC, I didn't see your exhortation to refrain until it was too late.

Here comes...a real sonnet.

G-strung plumber

The plumber came, he saw, he went to work.
Now he would straighten, wipe his brow and frown,
Then he would grab his tools, and screw or jerk
At plumbing. As he bent, his jeans went down.

I do not joke about one's underwear,
For gentlemen avoid that sort of thing.
It also helped his butt was nearly bare;
He only wore a certain type of string.

It is the latest fashion, I assume,
But still this new experience was numbing.
I started thinking of that crack of doom:
What was the state of his interior plumbing?

Without the small protection of his jeans,
I hoped the plumber hadn't eaten beans.

Mrs Azmi, from Dewsbury, had appeared without her veil at her interview for the job as an ethnic minority achievement curriculum support assistant.
She said she was "caught unawares" because she thought a woman would assess her and was willing to remove her veil in front of children providing male colleagues were not present.
After her suspension for failing to comply with management instruction, she brought a test case under the Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2004. She said: "It is clear that discrimination has taken place and I am disappointed the tribunal has not been able to uphold that part of my claim.
"I am pleased the tribunal recognised the victimising way in which the school and local education authority have handled this matter and the distress that has caused me."
The panel awarded her £1,000 for injured feelings with an extra 10 per cent because statutory grievance procedures had not been complied with. It found she had not been directly or indirectly discriminated against on religious grounds or treated detrimentally because she was bringing a claim. But it did find she had been subjected to a course of conduct which created an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for her.
Asked whether she would ever take off her veil if males were present, she replied: "No. I teach perfectly well with my veil on. Just give it a chance — that's what I call integration."
Kirklees council said: "The education of the children is of paramount importance. . . the tribunal has agreed that the action taken was correct."

The BBC wrote:The Dutch cabinet has backed a proposal by the country's immigration minister to ban Muslim women from wearing the burqa in public places.
The burqa, a full body covering that also obscures the face, would be banned by law in the street, and in trains, schools, buses and the law courts.
The cabinet said burqas disturb public order, citizens and safety.
The decision comes days ahead of elections which the ruling centre-right coalition is expected to win.
Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk, who is known for her tough policies, said it was important that all people in the Netherlands were able to see and identify each other clearly to promote integration and tolerance.
Last year a majority of MPs in the Dutch parliament said they were in favour of a ban.
An estimated 6% of 16 million people living in the Netherlands are Muslims.
But there are thought to be fewer than 100 women who choose to wear the burqa, a traditional Islamic form of dress.

Civil rights debate
The latest move came after an expert committee judged that it would not contravene Dutch law.
Other forms of face coverings, such as crash helmets with visors that obscure the face, would also be covered by a legal ban.
Ms Verdonk insisted the burqa was not an acceptable part of public life in the Netherlands.
"The Cabinet finds it undesirable that face-covering clothing - including the burqa - is worn in public places for reasons of public order, security and protection of citizens," she said.
Critics of the proposed ban say it would violate civil rights.
The main Muslim organisation in the Netherlands, CMO, said the plan was an "over-reaction to a very marginal problem", the Associated Press reported.
But the minister told the BBC that social interaction would be easier if faces were not covered.
"It is very important that we can see each other and can communicate with each other. Because we are so tolerant we want to respect each other."

Tension
The issue of the type of clothing worn by Muslim women has become a hotly-debated subject in a range of European countries.
France has passed a law banning religious symbols, including Muslim headscarves, from schools.
Some German states ban teachers in public schools from wearing headscarves, but there is no blanket rule against burqas.
Italy has banned face-coverings, resurrecting old laws passed to combat domestic terrorism, while citing new security fears.
The issue of Muslim women's dress also surfaced in the UK, where former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said women should not wear the veil.
The Dutch relationship with its Muslim community has been under scrutiny since the murder of film-maker Theo van Gogh by Islamic extremists in November 2004.
Earlier this year Ms Verdonk clashed with a minority party in the governing coalition over her handling of the citizenship case of Somali-born Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
The MP scripted a controversial film about the treatment of women in Islamic society, directed by van Gogh before he was killed.
But she admitted lying on her 1992 application for Dutch citizenship, and Ms Verdonk initially called for the MP to be deported.

LadyHel wrote:On the other hand "modest dressing" is often escapism and hiding form the world. It often denotes a lack of confidence with your body and that's not right either.