zoegirl wrote:
Now, see, I find this just plain silly. You are saying that basic plant physiology was radically different than it is today. Would GOd have done this? He certainly COULD have, but would HE? Again, either we trust HIS creation as being a valid testimony or we don't.
Yes, I certainly am! That is what I deduce from the word of God. Take the tree of life for example, it was found in Eden, and is also in the New Jerusalem. The growth rates are fantastic. If light was different, would not that effect photosynthesis, as might a plethora of other things in a different fabric universe? How could Noah release a bird, and, ...no tree. Then, a week later, another bird, and a grown tree?! How could God plant a garden, and we eat the fruit days later, off the trees? Yes, plants and people had radically different growth processes.
Plants established different rings because the establish differently sized xylem pipes. The pipes in wet springs are very large and and pipes in the fall and winter and very small, thus creating different densities and thus the rings. So unless you are saying that the YEARs were different time scales, then you have a silly hypothesis.
Not at all. The cycles we know in the present existed in another form in the past. We don't know all the details, but I think we can get some grasp of the way it was. There were different parts of a day. Likely a windy part(s) that were called the "cool of the day". There were wet parts, as the waters came up and watered the earth, instead of rain. That means also a lot of climate differences, no doubt. So, rings represented patterns in either the week,
day, or even hours, I would surmise.
Of course, you can go back to the appearance of age, but if the Bristlecone pine trees were made 6000years ago, then why would God have felt it necessary to advance the ages to 10,000 years? Such a small time frame....
No. The pines already had rings after the flood, likely, when they started to grow. Since we could have hundreds of rings in weeks, depending on the tree, there is ample time for all the rings you could dream of in the 101 years after the flood. We simply deduct the 4400 rings since the present state began, and approximate how many rings were already there! No long ages at all.
As for Noah, SEEDS can germinate into SEEDLINGS very quickly and I have no problem with the notion that the branch would have been a part of the seedling that was growing. (Remember, you established that the PRE-FALL world was outside time, not the post-fall world.....Are you saying now that God manipulated time and space AFTER THE FALL? AFTER THE CREATION WAS FINISHED? our notions of time within the post-fall world are invalid now?)
Yes, about the time of Babel, and the days of Peleg, when the earth was divided! Long after the fall. Yes, your dating is absolutely invalid as we approach the universe change a century after the flood. That would be about, as I figure it, the time of Sumer and early Egypt. That is as far as the records go! That is as far as this universe is testable, observable, and in any way part of science.
