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I say it takes more than one because as it is written...zoegirl wrote:...Now, the question posed was simply how many people define a denomination? Shall we resume the discussion?
My Concise Dictionary of Christianity in America says that a denomination is an association or fellowship of congregations. So it's a group of groups. Interestingly, it doesn't have a definition of congregation. The regular dictionary says congregation is a group of gathered people. I take it a group is more than two. I looked it up a bit more on the internet, and a denomination, besides being a faith group of groups, also has an overall governing body.B. W. wrote:I say it takes more than one because as it is written...zoegirl wrote:...Now, the question posed was simply how many people define a denomination? Shall we resume the discussion?
Mat 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." KJV
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ageofknowledge wrote:There is bullying. I am being bullied and now it's being twisted into a coverup. I want the warning removed.
What?Not you CS. I LIKE you. I'm saying that most of the mods simply cosign each other's posts until they've convinced each other they're right (of course their can only be one possible outcome from the collusion of these mods always acting in unison for the benefit of themselves) and continue bullying up on me. It's dumb. They should remove the warning and let everyone go their happy way onto the next subject. I also think Rich should make me a mod so I can send the two mods involved a warning for their behavior.cslewislover wrote:ageofknowledge wrote:There is bullying. I am being bullied and now it's being twisted into a coverup. I want the warning removed.
If then two or more groups make a denomination (fellowship) then would that fit the bill Jesus spoke of on the Macro scale that is?cslewislover wrote:My Concise Dictionary of Christianity in America says that a denomination is an association or fellowship of congregations. So it's a group of groups. Interestingly, it doesn't have a definition of congregation. The regular dictionary says congregation is a group of gathered people. I take it a group is more than two. I looked it up a bit more on the internet, and a denomination, besides being a faith group of groups, also has an overall governing body.B. W. wrote:I say it takes more than one because as it is written...zoegirl wrote:...Now, the question posed was simply how many people define a denomination? Shall we resume the discussion?
Mat 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." KJV
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A Christian denomination is an identifiable religious body under a common name, structure, and doctrine within Christianity. That body can be a single person. Denominations that started with thousands of people are still active with less than ten people (I provided the Shakers who are left with four members but there are others in the database I obtained the over 38,000 denominations in Christiandom figure from that have only 1 or even 0 but still exist on paper and could be reconstituted). Each denomination began with at least one person gathering a group of adherents around them. But that's not the point. The point is that sharing this results in a warning toward the real objective which is a ban.cslewislover wrote:My Concise Dictionary of Christianity in America says that a denomination is an association or fellowship of congregations. So it's a group of groups. Interestingly, it doesn't have a definition of congregation. The regular dictionary says congregation is a group of gathered people. I take it a group is more than two. I looked it up a bit more on the internet, and a denomination, besides being a faith group of groups, also has an overall governing body.B. W. wrote:I say it takes more than one because as it is written...zoegirl wrote:...Now, the question posed was simply how many people define a denomination? Shall we resume the discussion?
Mat 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." KJV
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Smoke and mirrors. He can easily have another mod do the deed with a single PM just like he was able to have the warning issued exactly like that. Look at his post of Byblos ยป Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:15 pm where he says it in bold letters and then it happens. So please zoegirl. I just proved it. COLLUSION. So you can drop the facade and stop pretending like that's not how it works.zoegirl wrote:Byblos himself excused himself from moderator duties with regard to you which should show that he is not using his moderator status as a bully pulpit. He has said that he will not ban you.
But a religious body can simply be a church or congregation without being a denomination; there are many of them. I would say that a body is made of parts, and that a single person would not constitute a congregation or a church body. It would be a person with their own faith or opinions. As for dead denominations, it sounds like they are simply a historical fact, not a denomination in any useful or practical sense. Sure, it's a matter of definition.ageofknowledge wrote:A Christian denomination is an identifiable religious body under a common name, structure, and doctrine within Christianity. That body can be a single person. Denominations that started with thousands of people are still active with less than ten people (I provided the Shakers who are left with four members but there are others in the database I obtained the over 38,000 denominations in Christiandom figure from that have only 1 or even 0 but still exist on paper and could be reconstituted). Each denomination began with at least one person gathering a group of adherents around them. But that's not the point. The point is that sharing this results in a warning toward the real objective which is a ban.cslewislover wrote:
My Concise Dictionary of Christianity in America says that a denomination is an association or fellowship of congregations. So it's a group of groups. Interestingly, it doesn't have a definition of congregation. The regular dictionary says congregation is a group of gathered people. I take it a group is more than two. I looked it up a bit more on the internet, and a denomination, besides being a faith group of groups, also has an overall governing body.
Actually, no, it doesn't. What you want to discuss isn't the issue. It's was flying off the handle. Palinand simple. That's why I asked to resume the discussion. It was a good discussion and has since brought abou good discussion. Byblos is free to ask you about the numbers. Nobody critiqued the numbers or is planning to ban you for the numbers.age wrote:The point is that sharing this results in a warning toward the real objective which is a ban.
, there wasn;t going to be a resolution there!). CSL is YEC and I am OEC. YOu have presented very nice arguments and posts here on multiple topics. IT'sjust plain mystifying why one or two questions has even brought this to this level. Actaully, I'm not YEC, but that's OK. I just don't agree with a small number of OEC arguments.zoegirl wrote:age wrote: All of us have similarities and differences. Jac and I have squared off on election before(well, I probably backed off before the term "squared off" can really be used
Hee hee. Good post though. 
I hadn't planned on re-engaging in this thread at all, lest I am now accused of enticement (it's enough that we've graduated into conspiracies). But since you asked (and thank you for asking) I will clarify what I meant. The discussion was on the number of denominations (not formally declared denominations mind you, just simply denominations). AoK stated that there actually was only a number in the hundreds, to which I asked what constituted a denomination and the answer was a single person. In my mind, since a previous assertion was made that there were 38,000 of them (an assertion I did not even make by the way), it stood to reason that if a single person can denote a denomination then the 38,000 can be multiplied by their respective number of members (hence the number of denominations is exponentially increased). A rather simple (and yes, silly) thing to say but it was said more with tongue in cheek rather than any attempt at serious debate. There was no intention of slyness in any way in my response but that basically is what sparked AoK's rage.zoegirl wrote:This has made me curious, howver, I want to know what Byblos in his original post about the increase in the numbers. Byblos, are you meaning that we all would have slightly different views ?
Ah, gotcha.Byblos wrote:I hadn't planned on re-engaging in this thread at all, lest I am now accused of enticement (it's enough that we've graduated into conspiracies). But since you asked (and thank you for asking) I will clarify what I meant. The discussion was on the number of denominations (not formally declared denominations mind you, just simply denominations). AoK stated that there actually was only a number in the hundreds, to which I asked what constituted a denomination and the answer was a single person. In my mind, since a previous assertion was made that there were 38,000 of them (an assertion I did not even make by the way), it stood to reason that if a single person can denote a denomination then the 38,000 can be multiplied by their respective number of members (hence the number of denominations is exponentially increased). A rather simple (and yes, silly) thing to say but it was said more with tongue in cheek rather than any attempt at serious debate. There was no intention of slyness in any way in my response but that basically is what sparked AoK's rage.zoegirl wrote:This has made me curious, howver, I want to know what Byblos in his original post about the increase in the numbers. Byblos, are you meaning that we all would have slightly different views ?