Evidence for God from Science

Nicki wrote:

stuartcr wrote:

EssentialSacrifice wrote:So you're looking for the questionable identity of a material from antiquity to make a potentially providential act more believeable ?

Yes. I figure if anyone could answer, it would come from this website.

Good on you, but I think the answer is it just happened - God decided to do it and he did, and he could have made the manna with any composition at all, the way he made the universe out of nothing.

abelcainsbrother wrote:I will never understand how people can believe we can have this vast universe without a creator God yet doubt God can do miracles if he wants to.People give science a pass when it comes to evidence but demand evidence for God.It is easy to believe God can do miracles if he chooses to.

EssentialSacrifice wrote:

Yes. I figure if anyone could answer, it would come from this website.

http://www.gotquestions.org/what-was-manna.html

no one has enough information to meet your requirements. if your saying "I'll believe" if, God, one of your children from 3000 years later can tell me what manna is made of.... then your belief in the providential act it took to create the manna is, perhaps, intentionally sabotaged.

stuartcr wrote:I realize I can be wrong, that is why I ask. I ask, because I do not believe in this providential act.

I ask, because I do not believe in this providential act.

The identity will answer my question. If the base material is unknown, then it makes the providential act even less believable.

Byblos wrote:

stuartcr wrote:I realize I can be wrong, that is why I ask. I ask, because I do not believe in this providential act.

Are there any acts/miracles you believe to be providential?

EssentialSacrifice wrote:

I ask, because I do not believe in this providential act.

how does, or can, the substance make up of manna effect this providential belief or disbelief ?

The identity will answer my question. If the base material is unknown, then it makes the providential act even less believable.

What does manna need to be (identity) to change your disbelief ? and why ? How does it's makeup effect the providential act.(miracle)

The Bible nowhere discusses the chemical composition of manna. All we are told is that “it was like coriander seed, white, and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey” (Exodus 16:31). Numbers 11:7 states that manna’s appearance was like “bdellium” or “resin.” Psalm 78:24 refers to manna as “grain from heaven,” and the next verse calls it “bread of angels.” So, manna seems to have been literal bread that God caused to miraculously appear each morning during the Israelites’ wilderness wanderings.
from: http://www.gotquestions.org/what-was-manna.html

If it was/is something that can be found in nature

or reproduced and found to have the qualities stated in the bible

that would be a big step towards helping.

EssentialSacrifice wrote:

The Bible nowhere discusses the chemical composition of manna. All we are told is that “it was like coriander seed, white, and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey” (Exodus 16:31). Numbers 11:7 states that manna’s appearance was like “bdellium” or “resin.” Psalm 78:24 refers to manna as “grain from heaven,” and the next verse calls it “bread of angels.” So, manna seems to have been literal bread that God caused to miraculously appear each morning during the Israelites’ wilderness wanderings.
from: http://www.gotquestions.org/what-was-manna.html

If it was/is something that can be found in nature

sounds very possible. When you look at miracles performed by God, they almost invariably make use of some prior act of His creation (water, fire,wind etc ...) to perform and be revealed as miraculous, even though it's merely simple manipulation of creation by He who is able to do so...

or reproduced and found to have the qualities stated in the bible

more difficult to do when the actual exact substance is unknown beyond the description above.

that would be a big step towards helping.

again, why ? how does the substance of manna effect the miraculous act and anyone's belief in the miracle.?

if it is something that can be reproduced.

EssentialSacrifice wrote:

if it is something that can be reproduced.

I'm positive it can be reproduced, but since God is the only one with the recipe, we'll need Him to do the work.

Otherwise, I think it safe to say you've got a ways to go to get a very large effect on my belief

Unfortunately, that applies to all the miracles

EssentialSacrifice wrote:

Unfortunately, that applies to all the miracles

unfortunately ? why unfortunately ?

stuartcr wrote:

Byblos wrote:

stuartcr wrote:I realize I can be wrong, that is why I ask. I ask, because I do not believe in this providential act.

Are there any acts/miracles you believe to be providential?

None that I can think of.

you said that I have got a ways to go to get a very large effect on my belief