Evidence for God from Science

Kurieuo wrote:

Audie wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:Atheism is an opinion a person chooses to accept with absolutely no evidence behind it.Even false religions have more evidence behind them than atheism.Atheists have nothing to bring to the table to discuss when it comes to evidence.They have nothing to hedge their bets with.

Do you believe in astrology? How about an alien base on the back side of the moon. The Illuminatti? How about Bigfoot? Evidence, you have some one way or the other?

Got anything with which to "hedge your bets' with? (whatever that is even supposed to mean)

Apply your version of reasoning to those and see how it works out.

How is your supply of evidence against ToE coming along?

eye roll as in always the same refrains between you two.

Nonetheless, I tried explaining evolution to my daughter, she told me it sounds like a fairy tale.

Kenny wrote:

Byblos wrote:

Kenny wrote:

Byblos wrote:

Kenny wrote: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

That's an extraordinary claim. Show us the likewise evidence.

If you told me you had chickens that would on average lay 3 eggs per day, I would believe you. As a matter of fact; if I were in the market of buying chickens, I would probably buy one of your chickens strictly on what you told me.
However; if you told me you had a chicken that would lay eggs made of solid gold, and you were willing to sell me this chicken at a reasonable price, now your word is no longer sufficient; before I make such an investment, I am going to require some evidence to prove your claim has merit. At minimum I am going to require you provide me one of those eggs for personal inspection; I will probably go as far as requiring a demonstration from this chicken under observed conditions.
Does this sound reasonable to you?

Ken

Sure, that sounds reasonable.

Now apply that to the (creation of) the universe and tell me what kind of extraordinary evidence is required.

How do you know the Universe was created? Perhaps something has always existed in one form or another.

Ken

Kurieuo wrote:A second question Audie, if you don't mind.
Why do you think if ToE can't be disproven that it must be true?

Storyteller wrote:Ilove Audie, deeply, dearly.

In alot if ways we agree, orat least understand. Except about God. I dont discount evolution, personally, I cant yet Audie discounts God.

Why??

Kenny wrote:

Storyteller wrote:Ilove Audie, deeply, dearly.

In alot if ways we agree, orat least understand. Except about God. I dont discount evolution, personally, I cant yet Audie discounts God.

Why??

Can't speak for Audie, but if I were to, I suspect you see evidence of Evolution, so you can't dismiss it; and she doesn't see any evidence of God, so she does.

Ken

kenny wrote:How do you know the Universe was created? Perhaps something has always existed in one form or another.

Kenny wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:A second question Audie, if you don't mind.
Why do you think if ToE can't be disproven that it must be true?

If you saw a ton on evidence pointing towards something, and no evidence against it, wouldn't you think it were true

Kenny wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

Audie wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:Atheism is an opinion a person chooses to accept with absolutely no evidence behind it.Even false religions have more evidence behind them than atheism.Atheists have nothing to bring to the table to discuss when it comes to evidence.They have nothing to hedge their bets with.

Do you believe in astrology? How about an alien base on the back side of the moon. The Illuminatti? How about Bigfoot? Evidence, you have some one way or the other?

Got anything with which to "hedge your bets' with? (whatever that is even supposed to mean)

Apply your version of reasoning to those and see how it works out.

How is your supply of evidence against ToE coming along?

eye roll as in always the same refrains between you two.

Nonetheless, I tried explaining evolution to my daughter, she told me it sounds like a fairy tale.

I'll bet cha if I were to explain half the stories in the Bible to a six year old who has never heard them; they would think the bible sounds like a fairy tale. Ya think?

Byblos wrote:

kenny wrote:How do you know the Universe was created? Perhaps something has always existed in one form or another.

I'm the one making the claim kenny, you don't get to redefine my claim. I am claiming the universe, as complex as it is, is created, which, granted for the sake of this discussion only, is an extraordinary claim. You contend that that requires equally as extraordinary evidence. The way the expression is understood, it implies that the creator must also be at least as complex as its creation, correct?

Nessa wrote:

Kenny wrote:

Storyteller wrote:Ilove Audie, deeply, dearly.

In alot if ways we agree, orat least understand. Except about God. I dont discount evolution, personally, I cant yet Audie discounts God.

Why??

Can't speak for Audie, but if I were to, I suspect you see evidence of Evolution, so you can't dismiss it; and she doesn't see any evidence of God, so she does.

Ken

What evidences do you see for evolution?

Kurieuo wrote:

Kenny wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:A second question Audie, if you don't mind.
Why do you think if ToE can't be disproven that it must be true?

If you saw a ton on evidence pointing towards something, and no evidence against it, wouldn't you think it were true

Yes, kind of like God.

Kurieuo wrote:

Kenny wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

Audie wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:Atheism is an opinion a person chooses to accept with absolutely no evidence behind it.Even false religions have more evidence behind them than atheism.Atheists have nothing to bring to the table to discuss when it comes to evidence.They have nothing to hedge their bets with.

Do you believe in astrology? How about an alien base on the back side of the moon. The Illuminatti? How about Bigfoot? Evidence, you have some one way or the other?

Got anything with which to "hedge your bets' with? (whatever that is even supposed to mean)

Apply your version of reasoning to those and see how it works out.

How is your supply of evidence against ToE coming along?

eye roll as in always the same refrains between you two.

Nonetheless, I tried explaining evolution to my daughter, she told me it sounds like a fairy tale.

I'll bet cha if I were to explain half the stories in the Bible to a six year old who has never heard them; they would think the bible sounds like a fairy tale. Ya think?

I challenge them both ways, but my daughter finds God's non-existence unfathomable.

Storyteller wrote:Evolution doesnt disprove God for me though.

Kenny wrote:

Storyteller wrote:Evolution doesnt disprove God for me though.

I agree! It doesn't for the Pope, and it doesn't for most Christians I know.

Ken