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Is it true McMullen is for 70% of what Bernie Sanders is for? If true? This makes him a big government libertarian and not a conservative,even if you don't like Trump.

abelcainsbrother wrote:Is it true McMullen is for 70% of what Bernie Sanders is for? If true? This makes him a big government libertarian and not a conservative,even if you don't like Trump.

Here. See for yourself.
https://www.evanmcmullin.com

McMullin tops new poll of Utah voters
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... tah-voters

Independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin is leading in Utah, according to an Emerson College Polling Society survey released Wednesday.
McMullin is favored by 31 percent of likely voters in the state. Republican nominee Donald Trump has the support of 27 percent, and Democrat Hillary Clinton is backed by 24 percent.
Another 5 percent support Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, and 12 percent are undecided.

Interesting Evan McMullin interview on ABC's This Week
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/independ ... d=42989007

DBowling wrote:Interesting Evan McMullin interview on ABC's This Week
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/independ ... d=42989007

I must say that when McCullen says things like this :

"It's going in the wrong direction, not the right direction, in its nomination of Donald Trump, but then also in standing by Trump even as he continues these bigoted, sexist, xenophobic messages to the United States," he said.

I can tell he cannot be trusted and is not informed but is parroting the liberal media and RINO'S in the Republican party.He is blind to the frustration and anger at our politicians in both parties. I hate to tell him but the millions of Trump voters who voted for Trump and gave him more votes than any other Republican ever is not going back to the Republican party. We are tired of the wimpyness,the lies every election while they sit there and let the Democrats get everything they want eventually. It makes no difference what issue it is,in the end liberals get their way so that we have a one party system. Now that we've got control of the Republican party it is the RINO'S that won't be driving anymore,they can stay in the back seat.RINO = Republicans In Name Only.

I find it revealing that he doesn't attack Clinton anywhere nearly as much.

McMullin deals with some questions that I have been asking myself ever since Trump won the Republican nomination.
How much damage has Trump done to the Republican brand?
What will the post Nov 8 Republican party look like?
Can nationalistic populism coexist in the same political party with conservatism?
If the party of Lincoln and Reagan has now become the party of Trump, where is a conservative supposed to go?

ACB talks about trust.
I am having a difficult time maintaining trust and confidence in certain people in Republican leadership (or leadership in the Evangelical community for that matter) who from my perspective abandoned their values to publicly support a candidate like Trump.

I'm not sure where I will fit in the post Nov 8 political world. Trump may not win the election, but I think his impact on the Republican party will continue to be felt for a long time.

It's a no-brainer to me really, what will become will become.

DBowling wrote:McMullin deals with some questions that I have been asking myself ever since Trump won the Republican nomination.
How much damage has Trump done to the Republican brand?
What will the post Nov 8 Republican party look like?
Can nationalistic populism coexist in the same political party with conservatism?
If the party of Lincoln and Reagan has now become the party of Trump, where is a conservative supposed to go?

ACB talks about trust.
I am having a difficult time maintaining trust and confidence in certain people in Republican leadership (or leadership in the Evangelical community for that matter) who from my perspective abandoned their values to publicly support a candidate like Trump.

I'm not sure where I will fit in the post Nov 8 political world. Trump may not win the election, but I think his impact on the Republican party will continue to be felt for a long time.

RickD wrote:

Thanks... I called mommy and daddy last night, so I'm ok now

DBowling wrote:McMullin deals with some questions that I have been asking myself ever since Trump won the Republican nomination.
How much damage has Trump done to the Republican brand?
What will the post Nov 8 Republican party look like?
Can nationalistic populism coexist in the same political party with conservatism?
If the party of Lincoln and Reagan has now become the party of Trump, where is a conservative supposed to go?

ACB talks about trust.
I am having a difficult time maintaining trust and confidence in certain people in Republican leadership (or leadership in the Evangelical community for that matter) who from my perspective abandoned their values to publicly support a candidate like Trump.

I'm not sure where I will fit in the post Nov 8 political world. Trump may not win the election, but I think his impact on the Republican party will continue to be felt for a long time.

Why do you care about the Republican party so much? I see nothing they have given us that is conservative and so why care about it? Once liberals get everything they want eventually it is like settled law to the Republican party.I really don't understand how you can trust the Republican party that has only led you on and lied to you.I thought you actually wanted conservative issues,but it is hard to believe you when you continue to want to believe in the Republican party. You see I really want conservative issues,I want liberals to lose politically instead of Republicans.

What good is it to have the Republican party a majority in the House and Senate plus have a Republican President and yet they still get pushed around by liberals and socialism increases while nothing changes? I've been wanting somebody like Trump who we know knows how to stand up to liberals and will fight to get his way. He is taking them on now,the media attacks him? They get attacked back and exposed even,the lies and slander liberals use every election just bounce off of Trump because he hits back. This is how you win in politics. You don't win doing things like Republicans have before Trump.And Trump has been fighting back this whole election,he hits back after he gets hit first. He does not just attack for nothing and never has this whole election.He just responds and hits back with the truth that exposes whoever attacked him first.

You're actually going to get conservatism if Trump wins and you're gonna like it if you are a real conservative and you'll realize it is good to run America like a business that makes money instead of the way politicians have ran it.You'll like Trump if you give him a chance,you'll see what I've been trying to tell you for awhile now and liberals like ed are going to get to experience how it feels to finally lose politically.

What do we really know about McMullin? Not very much, however, I suspected he put in to run for POTUS to try draw votes away from Trump and sabotage his campaign. He seems much less concerned about Hillary.

Now there is some evidence, according to this article that I stumbled across, I'd say that he's more part of the established order. He was there with McCain in Turkey when deals were being made in Turkey (2014) to arm rebels in Syria, some of whom ended up as ISIS leaders.

Literally hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost, including a great deal of Christians due to such war games being played, arming this and that "moderate" group only to discover they're not so moderate. And, McMullin touts his association with such deplorable failures (imo) as one reason to vote for him!

I won't mix words here, but it shows how little people know about him. He comes riding as though on a white horse to some, all values and this and that, but "bright and shiny" objects often end up being more of a let down. He'd no doubt continue pushing whatever immoral blood-oil generating agenda that is shared within the established order.



So then, of course McMullin would say "Trump is more dangerous than ISIS." For it seems at one point he had quite a good time with his now ISIS friends. Yes, ISIS are less dangerous to ISIS, but Trump is a danger to ISIS and working side by side with Putin they'd quickly be brought to an end.

PS. DBowling, I expect a like from you for lifting the veil.

Kurieuo wrote: PS. DBowling, I expect a like from you for lifting the veil.

Does an A for effort count...

Some comments...
Based on the timing of the photo, McMullin was travelling with McCain as an advisor to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
And I will not fault McCain for attempting to provide assistance to Syrian rebels who are opposing the murderous and brutal regime of Assad who has used the chemical weapon sarin against his own people. We are even now witnessing the results of the murderous brutality of Assad and Putin as we see events unfolding in Aleppo today.

As for 'blood-oil generating agendas'. There is only one candidate this year who has proposed seizing Iraq's oil as "spoils of war". Care to guess which candidate thinks that is a good idea?

Mr. Bowling,

Trump is the only candidate honest enough to propose what's already been happening. Ask yourself why Saudi Arabia wasn't the target of our military after 9/11.

Egg McMuffin is just another attempt by the Republican establishment to ignore the will of the people. He might be the best candidate. That doesn't mean he should be in office. My primary choice was Mike Huckabee. He didn't get the nomination. If there were some rules I could use to get Mike in there even though less than 1% of the country voted for him, I would not use them. It's dishonest. To use Clinton's word, it's deplorable. It's that terrible elitism that plagues both the right and the left. And it's just absolutely absurd and downright gross that DB and others would attempt to so justify their actions. Makes them just like the leftist statists.