Re: State of emergency?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:01 pm
Who is RGB? Ruth Gator Binsburg?ACB wrote:
Where is RGB? Is she alive or dead and the media is keeping her alive?
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
https://discussions.godandscience.org/
Who is RGB? Ruth Gator Binsburg?ACB wrote:
Where is RGB? Is she alive or dead and the media is keeping her alive?
It's RBG, she came back to work on Monday, and it saddens me that you're allowed to vote.abelcainsbrother wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:25 pmWhere is RGB? Is she alive or dead and the media is keeping her alive?
edwardmurphy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:02 pmIt's RBG, she came back to work on Monday, and it saddens me that you're allowed to vote.abelcainsbrother wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:25 pmWhere is RGB? Is she alive or dead and the media is keeping her alive?
edwardmurphy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:33 pmNo, it's really not. All Presidents lie, but none has ever lied as blatantly, constantly, and unapologetically as Trump. All Presidential candidates run on limiting executive overreach and then push the limits when they're in office, but none have ever blatantly faked a national emergency in order to circumvent Congressional oversight. All Presidents spar with the media, but none has ever undermined them, attacked their credibility, and incited violence against them like Trump. Most Presidents have had scandals and run into legal challenges, but none has ever been investigated as a potential foreign agent based on their own public words and actions.
While being investigated by a special counsel...
And being sued for violating the emoluments clause...
While his family charity is being investigated for fraud...
With half his staff either in jail or under indictment...
Rick, it's a matter of scale. Politicians do all kinds of shady stuff. We all know that. Trump does all of the shady stuff and more, and he does it all the time. This isn't anti-Trump hysteria, it's an evidence based conclusion.
That's not to say that there's not something to this:
The legitimacy of American political institutions is waning. Media outlets must, additionally, bring attention to specific institutions and behaviors which undermine American democracy rather than single out Trump. For, in many ways, Trump is a caricature of a failed political system.But I don't think that the author's point was that Trump is just another politician.
No, they haven't. That claim is a lie, regardless of how many times it gets repeated. The Secure Fences act of 2006 called for 700 miles of border fence and, contrary to claims by some pundits, 93% of that fencing was built. The current Democrats are fine with maintaining and upgrading that fence, and with improving security in other ways, although they'll obviously expect some permanent action on the Dreamers as part of the package. The claim that we need a wall from the Gulf to the Pacific is Trump, and only Trump.
Please show me where in the US Constitution the President has been given the power to allocate funds.abelcainsbrother wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:25 pmWhy are you going along with Congress trying to take executive powers every US President has granted to him by the US Constitution away?DBowling wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:44 pm what goes around comes around...
If Trump's 'emergency' (which Trump admitted in public before cameras he really didn't have to do) actually survives the courts then just be patient.
As you already noted, our next President could very easily consider Global Warming or Gun Violence in our country to be national emergencies and bypass Congress and take unilateral action.
Who needs Congress when you can just declare an emergency and do whatever you want?
I am astounded that constitutional conservatives are buying into the Trumpian narrative that a Presidential Monarchy is in any way, shape, or form what the framers of the Constitution had in mind!
President Trump's emergency declaration would be viable, though probably unsubstantiated factually, if it did not involve spending money. But by spending money not unauthorized by Congress, he has failed to uphold the Constitution, which he has sworn to preserve, protect and defend.
As a Constitutional Conservative I oppose any Presidential action that violates the separation of powers that are fundamental to the US Constitution.The days pf liberals getting what they want through the courts is about to end and you should be glad as a conservative,I am.
If it is proven that RBG is indeed alive, then are you willing to denounce as a fraud and 'fake news' any source of information that claims that RBG is not alive?Where is RGB? Is she alive or dead and the media is keeping her alive?
Now there's a question. How about it, Abe? Are you going to start allowing your beliefs to be influenced by evidence?
I think he's joking - least I hope so. Or else he's entered...ACB wrote: Where is RGB? Is she alive or dead and the media is keeping her alive?
DBowling wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:10 pmPlease show me where in the US Constitution the President has been given the power to allocate funds.abelcainsbrother wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:25 pmWhy are you going along with Congress trying to take executive powers every US President has granted to him by the US Constitution away?DBowling wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:44 pm what goes around comes around...
If Trump's 'emergency' (which Trump admitted in public before cameras he really didn't have to do) actually survives the courts then just be patient.
As you already noted, our next President could very easily consider Global Warming or Gun Violence in our country to be national emergencies and bypass Congress and take unilateral action.
Who needs Congress when you can just declare an emergency and do whatever you want?
I am astounded that constitutional conservatives are buying into the Trumpian narrative that a Presidential Monarchy is in any way, shape, or form what the framers of the Constitution had in mind!
You won't find it anywhere, because the US Constitution explicitly grants Congress the "power of the purse".
https://history.house.gov/institution/o ... the-purse/
If you don't care to look it up in the Constitution, Andrew Napolitano from Fox News clearly explains how Trump is violating the Constitution in the link below.
And I don't think even you would try to accuse Napolitano of being brainwashed by the MSM.
Judge Andrew Napolitano: Trump's brazen, unconstitutional overreach
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-a ... -overreach
Napolitano sums things up this wayPresident Trump's emergency declaration would be viable, though probably unsubstantiated factually, if it did not involve spending money. But by spending money not unauthorized by Congress, he has failed to uphold the Constitution, which he has sworn to preserve, protect and defend.As a Constitutional Conservative I oppose any Presidential action that violates the separation of powers that are fundamental to the US Constitution.The days pf liberals getting what they want through the courts is about to end and you should be glad as a conservative,I am.
I oppose liberal Presidents who violate the Constitutional separation of powers.
I oppose conservative Presidents who violate the Constitutional separation of powers.
This isn't a liberal vs conservative thing.
This is a Constitutional separation of powers thing.
If it is proven that RBG is indeed alive, then are you willing to denounce as a fraud and 'fake news' any source of information that claims that RBG is not alive?Where is RGB? Is she alive or dead and the media is keeping her alive?
You should take your own advice as I've given up giving you evidence because every time I have you ignore it or reject it.edwardmurphy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:24 pmNow there's a question. How about it, Abe? Are you going to start allowing your beliefs to be influenced by evidence?
This is a very clear example of the point I'm making.abelcainsbrother wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:00 pm I'm saying that we do not know if she is alive or dead but I believe she is dead and the media is keeping her alive.