Zoe,
RickD wrote:
Canuckster1127 wrote:It's returning to your original proposition and citing it itself as proof.
You state this is your opinion, and it appears you realize you can't prove it beyond stating your experience and opinion, and yet, you make a statement of fact that those who don't follow your practice are going to "continue being sick" and that the solution is to "do something yourselves".
You don't see anything breaking down within that line of thinking?
Bart, Do you realize that what people are asking when they ask for an independent source and double blind studies to prove that raw, whole foods and healthy water can give the human body the vitamins and minerals it needs to keep healthy? Do you realize how absurd that is?
Nobody is denying this and I would ask that you back this claim...I certainly have never said that. There are PLENTY of studies about healthy diets. What there is NOT out there are diets that show that eating foods and drinking water with certain pH will cause what those "nutritionists" claim
I didn't say you said that, but Bart and Jehoram did. All the alkaline info. does is explain WHY good foods are good, and bad foods are bad. Because of the balance of alkaline and acidic foods etc. we need. There is plenty of info out there to make a decision if it is correct or not. I searched and studied for months before I made my decision. It wasn't on a whim.
This is a rather silly argument because we are discussing a very specific metabolic disease dealing with the removal of a very specific acid, uric acid. This comes from a metabolic disorder from a very CERTAIN group of people who either produce too much uric acid or are missing some enzymes or have fewer enzymes that break down uric acid. WHile it is controlled by diet, it is not simply caused by drinking or eating acidic foods (or many more people would be getting this). You must have certain genetic or metabolic problems.
Zoe you are missing my point. People produce the uric acid because of their diet and metabolic acids they ingest. I'm not denying the genetic differences people have. If I have an overly acidic diet, My symptoms may be diabetes, or heart disease. You, on the other hand, may have arthritic symptoms. Our bodies deal with the metabolic acids in different ways. There may be a genetic link to breast cancer for example. If my wife's mom and maternal grandmother both got breast cancer, then that might mean that's the way their bodies deal with those metabolic acids.
My medicine is fixing the problem. It blocks the inflammation process. While I pray that there is a cure, surgery at this moment (of course excluding miraculous healing) is the only cure. I didn't simply "do nothing". I researched, I read, I even read the anecdotal evidence of different diets. I tried multiple types of medicine, I tried diets, I tried probiotics (made it worse), I even stopping eating and went down to simply water and the blandest of bland foods....believe I didn't simply do nothing.
Your medicine is relieving the symptoms of the problem. It isn't doing anything to stop the problem. Simply drinking water(which was probably acidic and with a high +orp) and eating bland foods isn't what I'm saying. With your serious symptoms, you need to eat as close to 100% alkaline diet until the symptoms disappear. Then you can slowly add some other healthy but acidic foods. Most bottled waters I've tested are very acidic. Dasani had about a 4 ph. That's 1000 times more acidic than my tap water with a 7 ph. Colas and gatorade have a ph around 2.5-3. That's about 10,000 times more acidic that 7.0 tap water. How can our bodies counteract that acidity if we're not eating alkaline foods or drinking alkaline water?
May I ask if he had a certain illness that was cured? Or did he simply "feel better"? Like I said, if it is as simple as this, believe me, there would be people in the medical profession falling over themselves (as greedy as they are) wanting to make money off of this. It would be ridiculously easy to test and prove, after all.
His results were similar to mine. Keep in mind that alkaline water is only 1 part of a proper alkaline diet. To get the full benefits, one must get as close to 100% alkaline with his/her foods and drinks. Healthy people would probably maintain their health with about 80% alkaline and 20% acidic foods and drinks.
. Because I would be willing to bet money that what really helps is not that it is "special" water but that it is simply water.
And, you would be wrong. I posted this back on page 3:
I figured out how much $ we spent on bottled water. The price of that would exceed the price of water from my machine.
My wife and I drank bottles upon bottles of water. We live in Florida, and realize that we need to be hydrated. What we didn't realize is that most of the bottled water was highly acidic, and just contributed to the metabolic acids in our system. One thing my brother in law noticed anout the alkaline water was that he didn't get heartburn when he drank it like he did when he drank bottled water. That's because of the acidity of the bottled water.
There is nothing remotely special about it, other than the fact that they are probably watching how much they are consuming. There is nothing novel about the special qualities of water itself. It is well established that drinking more water helps in overall health and weight loss.
I would probably agree with you if I hadn't consumed so much bottled water before. Healthy, ionized, alkaline water is thousands of times better than acidic bottled water, or even 7 ph tap water with all the chemicals that are in the municipal water and well water. Zoe, it all comes down to this: Either I'm correct, and if you start on a close to 100% alkaline diet(food and drink) and your symptoms will gradually disappear. Or, I'm sincerely mislead and completely wrong. Only you can decide for yourself.