"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Well the prophecies describing what will happen before and after the Messiah age happens. I will have to look up my information on the Messiah and Messiah age in my books. Give me some time to look up my books.Gman wrote:Yes.. Ultimately. How? I'm not really sure except that they are moved in the spirit somehow.Johnny916 wrote:I understand. I'm influenced from the Messiah concept that the Messiah will lead the Jews back to the holy land.
Oh yes I fully agree.. Satan is trying to kill the Jews so that the covenants will be broken. It's a spiritual problem but often we don't see that with spiritual eyes.Danieltwotwenty wrote:
And this is where i have found Christains to be anti-semetic ( not saying what you said is Gman ), they take the persecution of the Jews to mean that this is God's punishment on them which is incorrect.
I believe the persecution of the Jew's is the work of Satan, he wants to destroy God's people.
By the way. What do you and the others think of Satan? Satan is just an angel in my book. Basically all Satan does is a job for G-d. Which is tempting people to sin. Do you agree or disagree?Gman wrote:Oh yes I fully agree.. Satan is trying to kill the Jews so that the covenants will be broken. It's a spiritual problem but often we don't see that with spiritual eyes.Danieltwotwenty wrote:
And this is where i have found Christains to be anti-semetic ( not saying what you said is Gman ), they take the persecution of the Jews to mean that this is God's punishment on them which is incorrect.
I believe the persecution of the Jew's is the work of Satan, he wants to destroy God's people.
Unfortunately there is nowhere a Jew can hide.
Oh.. You would have a blast in Israel. It's the media that overblows things out of proportion. I felt very safe there.. Safer than some cities I've been in the U.S..Danieltwotwenty wrote:I would love to go to Israel one day and meet my relatives, and i think it would also be a spiritual journey for me like coming home after a being away for a very long time.
The only thing that would hold me back is all the violence there at the moment.
Well... If you are a Christian we are to be extremely opposed to anything that deals with satan. He is only an angel, but a corrupt one that temps people. Yes...Johnny916 wrote:
By the way. What do you and the others think of Satan? Satan is just an angel in my book. Basically all Satan does is a job for G-d. Which is tempting people to sin. Do you agree or disagree?
My mum goes there a lot, i should stop being a scairdy cat and trust in the Lord.Gman wrote:Oh.. You would have a blast in Israel. It's the media that overblows things out of proportion. I felt very safe there.. Safer than some cities I've been in the U.S..Danieltwotwenty wrote:I would love to go to Israel one day and meet my relatives, and i think it would also be a spiritual journey for me like coming home after a being away for a very long time.
The only thing that would hold me back is all the violence there at the moment.
Don't listen to the media...
I would say he does the job unknowingly and unwantingly, what do you think *edit* but i never think it was God's plan to make him that wayGman wrote:Well... If you are a Christian we are to be extremely opposed to anything that deals with satan. He is only an angel, but a corrupt one that temps people. Yes...Johnny916 wrote:
By the way. What do you and the others think of Satan? Satan is just an angel in my book. Basically all Satan does is a job for G-d. Which is tempting people to sin. Do you agree or disagree?
I wouldn't think he does a "job" for G-d.
Oh yes.. I wouldn't deny that. The mechanics of that are not exactly clear however.. I do have some theories however.Johnny916 wrote:Well the prophecies describing what will happen before and after the Messiah age happens. I will have to look up my information on the Messiah and Messiah age in my books. Give me some time to look up my books.Gman wrote:Yes.. Ultimately. How? I'm not really sure except that they are moved in the spirit somehow.Johnny916 wrote:I understand. I'm influenced from the Messiah concept that the Messiah will lead the Jews back to the holy land.
Well angels cannot rebel against G-d in Judaism. Angels are perfect beings who cannot sin or have free-will. Very different between humans and angels. I believe the Lucifer title is for a defeated Babylonian king.Danieltwotwenty wrote:Doesn't the scripture say that he rebelled against God because he wanted to be like him? Ezekiel 28:15-17
What passages from scripture support your view of Lucifer?
You will never be the same if you go there.. Trust me.Danieltwotwenty wrote:
My mum goes there a lot, i should stop being a scairdy cat and trust in the Lord.
My family wants to go to Israel also. We have never been there. My girlfriend is also a Jew and we're thinking of all going this Holiday Season.Gman wrote:You will never be the same if you go there.. Trust me.Danieltwotwenty wrote:
My mum goes there a lot, i should stop being a scairdy cat and trust in the Lord.
You mean that G-d can take a negative and turn it into a positive? Sure... I'd be up for that, but I wouldn't say however that his ways are blessed either..Danieltwotwenty wrote:
I would say he does the job unknowingly and unwantingly, what do you think *edit* but i never think it was God's plan to make him that way
Wouldn't this mean that God is tempting us, and wouldn't this go against the perfect nature of God?Johnny916 wrote:By the way. What do you and the others think of Satan? Satan is just an angel in my book. Basically all Satan does is a job for G-d. Which is tempting people to sin. Do you agree or disagree?Gman wrote:Oh yes I fully agree.. Satan is trying to kill the Jews so that the covenants will be broken. It's a spiritual problem but often we don't see that with spiritual eyes.Danieltwotwenty wrote:
And this is where i have found Christains to be anti-semetic ( not saying what you said is Gman ), they take the persecution of the Jews to mean that this is God's punishment on them which is incorrect.
I believe the persecution of the Jew's is the work of Satan, he wants to destroy God's people.
Unfortunately there is nowhere a Jew can hide.