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Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:51 pm
by B. W.
1stjohn0666 wrote:The great doctrines of the bible are without error and in teaching they never contradict. Now as for small "details" there are discrepancies between one writer and another. There are people who hold to absolutely without error and if one finds an error or is approached with one, that person feels as if the bible has one single error then the entire bible is is all in error.
Okay, but you are relying on human interpretations nevertheless and your POV (Point of View) holds true only producing way too many contradictions in you pov bible interpretations’.
Next, you still not define the following that I asked you
--Who and what is the Spirit of God to you...
--A personality?
--A force of mere action, will, (power) from God?
As on the other thread –
-- Jesus save us from Past sins only?
--Did Jesus save us from present sin only?
--Did Jesus save us from future sins only?
This has everything to do with inspired or dictated
Note: People use the same terms but do not mean the same thing by the terms so (please) clearly define and explain what you mean so people can dialogue with you…
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:13 am
by 1stjohn0666
I stumbled across a nice link:
http://godandson.reslighttt.netttth/?p=980
About salvation, past, present, and future. It seems to me that your asking if I subscribe to "once saved always saved" the answer is NO.
Just asking Jesus to be Lord is not enough to "get saved" (If I can use that term) being saved is living a holy life, not that we are going to sin from time to time (we are). James says "faith without works is dead" Certainly we are saved by grace, we maintain faith and except Christ as Lord. (The bible never says that we have to believe Jesus is God to be saved) that comes from the post biblical Creeds. We are not saved by works, but having faith produces works. I believe that you can be saved and fall away. "there will be many to fall from the faith" 1 Tim 4:1 I believe you can come back. Some will say "They were not saved in the first place" I find this to be untrue, and see that person judging "for" God.
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:26 am
by RickD
John, are you going to address the questions that are asked of you?
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:45 am
by 1stjohn0666
I just did
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:16 am
by B. W.
1stjohn0666 wrote:I just did
Thank you finally for your link so other may know what
Restoration Light Bible Study Services are and who puts these out here is the info below:
Restoration Light Bible Study Services
An array of treatises on Biblical topics; Zion's Watch Tower (1879-1916);
resources concerning Charles Taze Russell.
(Added: Thu Jan 01 2004) ID 5555
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell
http://ctr.reslight.net/?p=499
So you are a restorted JW john 666?
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Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:31 am
by 1stjohn0666
The link I got if you noticed the site states that they are not affiliated with the Jehovahs Witnesses organization. I used the site for a better way to answer a question without my own words. I like the JW teaching of one God, but I don't agree with Jesus being the archangel Michael. I am not JW or a sub-form.
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:34 am
by B. W.
1stjohn0666 wrote:The link I got if you noticed the site states that they are not affiliated with the Jehovahs Witnesses organization. I used the site for a better way to answer a question without my own words. I like the JW teaching of one God, but I don't agree with Jesus being the archangel Michael. I am not JW or a sub-form.
The teach the same things in a
Restored Fashion meaning they remove things and add things
to a founders writings and teachings to make it more fashionable - that is all.
Error is still error no matter who teaches it...
You are still in a Cult
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Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:41 am
by 1stjohn0666
what cult do I belong to? I don't subscribe to "mainstream Christianity" as per I don't buy into a post biblical ideology.
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:47 am
by RickD
1stjohn0666 wrote:what cult do I belong to? I don't subscribe to "mainstream Christianity" as per I don't buy into a post biblical ideology.
If you don't believe Jesus Christ is God, then your belief is cultic:
What is the definition of a cult?
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:09 am
by 1stjohn0666
I am Christian, Living Hope ministries is the church I like. We don't subscribe to the trinity theory, which is a post biblical idea.
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:11 am
by B. W.
1stjohn0666 wrote:I am Christian, Living Hope ministries is the church I like. We don't subscribe to the trinity theory, which is a post biblical idea.
There are many Ministries that go by the same name - does the one you go to have a website? Vince Finnagan who formed a splinter group from the WAY International?
For example this one:
http://lhim.org/aboutus/statementofbeliefs.php
http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/tw_s ... groups.htm
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Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:17 am
by RickD
1stjohn0666 wrote:I am Christian, Living Hope ministries is the church I like. We don't subscribe to the trinity theory, which is a post biblical idea.
The trinity is not a post biblical idea. The word, "trinity" is used to describe what is already in scripture.
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:23 am
by B. W.
RickD wrote:1stjohn0666 wrote:I am Christian, Living Hope ministries is the church I like. We don't subscribe to the trinity theory, which is a post biblical idea.
The trinity is not a post biblical idea. The word, "trinity" is used to describe what is already in scripture.
So Rcik if this Living Hope ministriesis linked to Vince Finnegan group and John Lynn then these are splinter groups from
The WAY International...
http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/tw_s ... groups.htm
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Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:28 am
by PaulSacramento
1stjohn0666 wrote:what cult do I belong to? I don't subscribe to "mainstream Christianity" as per I don't buy into a post biblical ideology.
The view that Jesus was NOT created and is of the same nature as God is from the writings of Paul and John ( primarily) and since they wrote BEFORE the NT as we know it came to be, then any view AFTER theirs would be "post apostolic" and any views after the canon was confirmed, those would be "post biblical".
Re: inspired or dictated?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:32 pm
by 1stjohn0666
Ilike Vince Finnegan.