Evidence for God from Science

Mallz wrote:Now I don't think you're even reading what I say. Forget it.

I did read what you said and I rejected it.

Prove that I approached it differently the second time, I bet you can't.

Easily. You used a different finger sequence when typing expressed by varying and different muscle movements to produce a different result. I can go further down the line in how different your first attempt and second attempt was that produced different results. Obviously, if you did it exactly the same as the first time, the result would be the same.

There is no such thing a perfect chaos, because that makes it orderly and consistent over time. In other words if a condition lasts than it is part of order. Real chaos can only ever be temporary.

Therefor randomness together with predictability works OK and is not chaotic.

Look, if you want to try and prove random exists another way, please have at it. You are not doing it now.

Daniel you deliberately tried to demonstrate chaos, which is not chaos but deliberated.

Therefor randomness together with predictability

Isn't that a self-refuting statement?

Mallz wrote: Easily. You used a different finger sequence when typing expressed by varying and different muscle movements to produce a different result. I can go further down the line in how different your first attempt and second attempt was that produced different results. Obviously, if you did it exactly the same as the first time, the result would be the same.

Yep so what, this just proves that my muscles moved in a random pattern, if they moved exactly the same I would have produced the same results.

You are actually proving my point that it was random....................................

Starhunter wrote:Daniel you deliberately tried to demonstrate chaos, which is not chaos but deliberated.

I didn't demonstrate Chaos, I demonstrated randomness.

Mallz wrote:

Therefor randomness together with predictability

Isn't that a self-refuting statement?

Yes and No, there is no such thing as anything unpredictable with God. So chaos cannot exist, but randomness can, since it is a term of observation anyway.

Danieltwotwenty wrote:

Starhunter wrote:Daniel you deliberately tried to demonstrate chaos, which is not chaos but deliberated.

I didn't demonstrate Chaos, I demonstrated randomness.

You are quite right Daniel, lol.

You are actually proving my point that it was random..

Not in the slightest.

So is randomness - chaos with certain probabilities?

Mallz wrote:

You are actually proving my point that it was random..

Not in the slightest.

So chaos cannot exist, but randomness can, since it is a term of observation anyway.

Chaos does exist and we are a part of it now. Chaos is the state of perverting an essence (sin).
Randomness can't exist as existence is based on an intelligent Elohim. This Pure Being, this Intelligent Existence, does not have random in it.
We might not be able to predict Elohim, but He predicts Himself.
If He predicts Himself, there are no elements unknown, and nothing 'random'. Random exists in the fantasy of the mind.

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