Evidence for God from Science

manden wrote:The mankind must try with all power to recognize at the universe that the real Creator of the universe really exists !

THAT is the ONLY way that the mankind comes forward and is able to go the way the real Creator wants from us .

Believe it - when you can - or not .

I wonder if you could help some atheists here get over the hump of realizing a creator exists?Atleast you've got over that hump,but I'm not in no way convinced your god is the real true creator.You've given no reasons to believe in your creator.

I`m still confused as to who or what this Creator is. Is it the universe itself?

Sorry , cannot help . You must try to understand my theme post . And for that you must solve from the pre-fixations of the
bible .

Oh well. I tried.

I now concede defeat.

Storyteller ,

The TRUE God is the real Creator of the universe ( more from him is not recognizable ) .
He has created the universe - that says very much about him - but more about him we don' know - also not your
question about the universe ( my personal opinion is no , but I don't know )

manden wrote:The mankind must try with all power to recognize at the universe that the real Creator of the universe really exists !

THAT is the ONLY way that the mankind comes forward and is able to go the way the real Creator wants from us .

Believe it - when you can - or not .

Is there something specific you mean by 'recognize at the universe'? It's hard for us not to be at the universe given the size of the thing.

Nicki wrote:

manden wrote:The mankind must try with all power to recognize at the universe that the real Creator of the universe really exists !

THAT is the ONLY way that the mankind comes forward and is able to go the way the real Creator wants from us .

Believe it - when you can - or not .

Is there something specific you mean by 'recognize at the universe'? It's hard for us not to be at the universe given the size of the thing.

Brilliant!

Nicki , in the theme post (first) it is explained .

manden wrote:Nicki , in the theme post (first) it is explained .

Then we must all be missing it then.

Look there .

manden wrote:Storyteller ,

The TRUE God is the real Creator of the universe ( more from him is not recognizable ) .
He has created the universe - that says very much about him - but more about him we don' know - also not your
question about the universe ( my personal opinion is no , but I don't know )

Again, your creator is not all powerful, or all wise, or all knowing, or merciful, or just. Did you realize you just stated this same thing in your own statement above?

How can anyone know about a creator being to lazy to reveal his/her/itself to humanity in any form at all. The universe only displays the glory of God's handiwork. From that alone, people end up worshiping what is in creation and not god, or they worship their reason and logic.

A great creator to busy to and so unwise and so very not-not all powerful enough to leave a written record for fallen humanity to recognize his-her-its way, desires, plans, character, nature is not a great creator but rather what you created inside yourself.

Manden, you need serious help maybe even deliverance from a seducing spirit. Frankly Manden, you are not coherent nor logical. You need the real Jesus to set you free, who is the real creator, who came to set folks free.

You will not state the real reason that you do not like the bible but simply give the usual talking points that atheist use providing no proof at all, only self assertions. Suggest you come to Jesus Christ, become born again, and find the true living creator who left us his directions back to himself which is free because he paid the cost of love to save humanity from its self deceptions.

You need the real Jesus: Just call upon his name, surrender your heart to him, learn who he really is that thru the message of His cross and His resurrection, you too can die to pride and be resurrected into new life. Simply pray to be released from your sin i.e. dysfunction and he will save you.
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B. W. : if you know more than the Creator , then you must try to make his "job" !

But i think you know almost nothing .

Where has B.W. said he knows more than the Creator?

manden wrote:B. W. : if you know more than the Creator , then you must try to make his "job" !

But i think you know almost nothing .

Manden, I am known by my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, as many here on this forum are known too. He has changed our lives in ways none of us could by our own hands or works. You can come to know him to and be set free on your life's journey too. It is simple and free too.

Also, Manden, you are self deluding yourself as well as making yourself look foolish.

Suggest you read the rules of the forum again as his forum may not be right for you.
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