Evidence for God from Science

edwardmurphy wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:No the liars were the MSM and their polls and political analysis. Alex Jones was right. And Obama's birth certificate is a forged document,therefore you cannot know where Obama was born,nobody knows.

And no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise. Tragically you, and millions like you, can vote.

Another "tolerant" liberal we have in our midst

Stu wrote:

edwardmurphy wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:No the liars were the MSM and their polls and political analysis. Alex Jones was right. And Obama's birth certificate is a forged document,therefore you cannot know where Obama was born,nobody knows.

And no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise. Tragically you, and millions like you, can vote.

Another "tolerant" liberal we have in our midst

Thank you to the millions like you Stu, I'm guessing you voted Trump.

Kurieuo wrote:

Stu wrote:

edwardmurphy wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:No the liars were the MSM and their polls and political analysis. Alex Jones was right. And Obama's birth certificate is a forged document,therefore you cannot know where Obama was born,nobody knows.

And no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise. Tragically you, and millions like you, can vote.

Another "tolerant" liberal we have in our midst

Thank you to the millions like you Stu, I'm guessing you voted Trump.

No I'm not American, but if I was I would've voted Trump. Did you seriously vote Clinton?

How can you be a Christian and be a liberal at the same time? You can't.

Stu wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

Stu wrote:

edwardmurphy wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:No the liars were the MSM and their polls and political analysis. Alex Jones was right. And Obama's birth certificate is a forged document,therefore you cannot know where Obama was born,nobody knows.

And no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise. Tragically you, and millions like you, can vote.

Another "tolerant" liberal we have in our midst

Thank you to the millions like you Stu, I'm guessing you voted Trump.

No I'm not American, but if I was I would've voted Trump. Did you seriously vote Clinton?

How can you be a Christian and be a liberal at the same time? You can't.

No, I'm Aussie, but I would've voted Trump too. Us non-Americans did well to influence the US vote. Which state were you responsible for hacking the votes for? I did well in my assigned state. Thanks to the Kremlin I was able to buy so much cooler gifts for my kids.

Kurieuo wrote:

Stu wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

Stu wrote:

edwardmurphy wrote:
And no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise. Tragically you, and millions like you, can vote.

Another "tolerant" liberal we have in our midst

Thank you to the millions like you Stu, I'm guessing you voted Trump.

No I'm not American, but if I was I would've voted Trump. Did you seriously vote Clinton?

How can you be a Christian and be a liberal at the same time? You can't.

No, I'm Aussie, but I would've voted Trump too. Us non-Americans did well to influence the US vote. Which state were you responsible for hacking the votes for? I did well in my assigned state. Thanks to the Kremlin I was able to buy so much cooler gifts for my kids.

LOL yeah it was actually me and a group of friends that hacked Podesta! Job well done. Shhh don't tell Hillary.

edwardmurphy wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:No the liars were the MSM and their polls and political analysis. Alex Jones was right. And Obama's birth certificate is a forged document,therefore you cannot know where Obama was born,nobody knows.

And no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise. Tragically you, and millions like you, can vote.

So just because you reject the evidence means we can just believe you who has no evidence? Why don't you take Infowars's challenge and prove them wrong? Just ignoring it,doesn't make you right just because you say so. Your denial is not a reason to believe you.

For the millionth time, FORGET the birthers, because they are attached to all kinds of nonsense. HOWEVER, Sheriff Joe and others are referring to specific evidences that has been objectively and independently analyzed, by two very qualified entities on two continents. And I've not seen one person here show how the technical evidence of perfect replications could exist upon different analog documents. Not ONE person has addressed the technical aspect of the evidences presented - it's all "birthers are an embarrassment, etc." And THAT is not addressing the ONLY aspect of the document question that really matters.

In fact, let's for a moment assume that the document is a deliberate fraud. IF that were so, and you were either part of the individuals responsible for that or amongst those who really don't want to believe that at all possible, then what would then be your natural response? Dismissive, characterize it as the mere folly of loons on the right, etc. Of course you would assert and associate the known fraud, or even the potential fraud you can't comprehend or would freak over the ramifications of it, with loony bin rightists. But that is not a credible way to dismiss the evidences and conclusions of those trained and skilled in such an analysis.

So, if one is unable to challenge the evidence and conclusions BASED UPON TECHNICAL AND OBJECTIVE FACTS, then all you have done is show your contempt for those associated with the belief of asserted fraud, but you have absolutely NOT credibly challenged the evidences.

I'd like to see just ONE person here explain how analog documents created upon a variable device or devices, with considerable flunctuations, both vertically, horizontally, and angle-wise, could show perfect, multiple points of congruence? How is that possible? No need to redundantly post a response about birthers - as that's totally irrelevant.

Birthers are teh for loosers.

Philip wrote: I'd like to see just ONE person here explain how analog documents created upon a variable device or devices, with considerable flunctuations, both vertically, horizontally, and angle-wise, could show perfect, multiple points of congruence? How is that possible?

I'm old enough to have actually used a typewriter...

This is really not difficult to explain.
If I put the same document in the same type writer, and I use the same tabs, hit carriage return the same number of times, and type the same letters. Then yes there will be all kinds of congruence between the two documents.

Even old typewriters have standard spacing for letters, tabs, and carriage return.
Multiple points of congruence between documents that used the same typewriter is just not a big deal.

The only truly analog portion of the documents involved the stamp angle, but even though the stamps had similar angles, there were different numbers on the stamp and the stamps were in different locations on the document itself. So despite the similarities in the stamp angles there are a lot of differences in the stamp location and content.

The explanation for the multiple points of congruence is not complicated or difficult, especially for the typed portions of the document.

The thing that people are overlooking is forensic science from experts when it comes to forged documents and they have shown Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. Forensic science has been used to put many people behind bars. The evidence from these experts is much stronger evidence it is a forged document than anything the birthers tried to to use to show it was a forgery. This new evidence would hold up in a court of law,unlike anything else the birthers used.To sit there and believe that forensic science experts,who understand the amount of evidence you'd need in a court of law for a conviction. Evidence must reach a certain threshold in order to hold up in court,but to doubt and believe experts cannot tell if a document has been forged or not,is just denial,especially if you are doubting it over politics.