Re: Caught In Hail Storm
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:09 am
The fact that Jesus didn’t say it in this words does not mean we are to keep it. We are free from the law.
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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We are free from the curse of the law ( Galatians 3:13 )...not the law itself as it brings knowledge of sin ( Romans 3:10 ) , the law is holy and the commandment righteous and good ( Romans 7:12 ). We, therefore being lead by the Spirit, uphold the law. ( Romans 3:31 ).mrtzur2015 wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:09 am The fact that Jesus didn’t say it in this words does not mean we are to keep it. We are free from the law.
Well, I don't see how it takes so much thought as to whether there were any Jews or Gentiles present when God made the 7th day holy at creation...but ok...you take all the time you need to work up your rationalization.RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:19 am Bav,
I will respond to your posts when I can. Your points require more time for me to answer, than I have at the moment.
I'm not used to having to put any thought into my posts. It's going to be different than my usual short, sarcastic, ad hom attack and run posts.
Rationalization? Why the ad hom? You could've just said "response".BavarianWheels wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:20 amWell, I don't see how it takes so much thought as to whether there were any Jews or Gentiles present when God made the 7th day holy at creation...but ok...you take all the time you need to work up your rationalization.RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:19 am Bav,
I will respond to your posts when I can. Your points require more time for me to answer, than I have at the moment.
I'm not used to having to put any thought into my posts. It's going to be different than my usual short, sarcastic, ad hom attack and run posts.
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So you do see the sarcasm. Good...I'm not making stuff up.RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:26 amRationalization? Why the ad hom? You could've just said "response".BavarianWheels wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:20 amWell, I don't see how it takes so much thought as to whether there were any Jews or Gentiles present when God made the 7th day holy at creation...but ok...you take all the time you need to work up your rationalization.RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:19 am Bav,
I will respond to your posts when I can. Your points require more time for me to answer, than I have at the moment.
I'm not used to having to put any thought into my posts. It's going to be different than my usual short, sarcastic, ad hom attack and run posts.
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You hurt my feelings
So, you really don't see the sarcasm?BavarianWheels wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 10:38 amThat's sad considering your position here on this forum.
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No, it's true - Rick really does have feelings. Just ask his wife - she tells me that most of them are in his stomach and are also what other people refer to as their taste buds. Plus, he's from Massachusetts - where they've perfected sarcasm to a near art form! Actually, they're almost as good at it as are the Aussies!Rick: And please stop attacking me. I'm a very sensitive person. I have feelings.
I've developed a fair talent at sarcasm myself. But the problem is that I'm at the mercy of the moderating team and I may not have as free a reign.
Bav,BavarianWheels wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 12:11 pmScripture that states where the Jews were that God directed the Sabbath at them and only them that first 7th day?
I can't wait!
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In order to show you from scripture, that your position/beliefs are unscriptural, I need to find scripture to show you.So...to use a term such as "Judaizer" can be condescending and demeaning depending how it is used...and you definitely used it as a means to condescend and demean my position/beliefs...which as of yet, you've not proven unscriptural.
It does...so let's start with the text/scripture that shows God talking to Jews at creation and explicitly giving the Sabbath ONLY to them...RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 1:07 pmBav,BavarianWheels wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 12:11 pmScripture that states where the Jews were that God directed the Sabbath at them and only them that first 7th day?
I can't wait!
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You wrote in post #56 of this thread:In order to show you from scripture, that your position/beliefs are unscriptural, I need to find scripture to show you.So...to use a term such as "Judaizer" can be condescending and demeaning depending how it is used...and you definitely used it as a means to condescend and demean my position/beliefs...which as of yet, you've not proven unscriptural.
Does that seem reasonable?
After, if you wish you can start a thread about all the ways you assert SDAs to be "Judaizers".
Well...I'm saddened you declined to prove that at creation, God made the Sabbath holy only unto the Jews...that point would end my position/argument abruptly.RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:12 pm Bav,
I'm going to have to respectfully decline to respond as I was going to. I came upon this thread, and read through the majority of it.
I really have nothing new to add, that hasn't already been said by someone in that thread.
There was no argument from me here. We are not under law FOR SALVATION...so, yes, I would like to see your proof texts to show you how you have misinterpreted what it means to be "under law" especially when it's clear Christ died to save us from the CURSE of the law...not in order to remove the law. That would be illogical if the law points out sin!
You haven't done what you said you'd do, except to cop-out of defending your own beliefs yourself.