Evidence for theistic evolution

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And sorry from me too,Ive got a fever / chills / ache i hardly know my own name.

Gotta go lie down.
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Audie wrote:And sorry from me too,Ive got a fever / chills / ache i hardly know my own name.

Gotta go lie down.
You just got over being sick not long ago. Hope you get well again soon! y@};-
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Audie, I hope you feel much better tomorrow! You've probably been pulling too many all-nighters with papers due and such. Sleep well! :sleep:
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If we took all of the scientists in the world and put all of their knowledge together they still cannot produce living,breathing life with a soul,not even Satan could, he could only copy things God had already created,there is biblical evidence that Lucifer tampered with the DNA of life and tried to create his own life and failed in front of all the other angels because he wanted to be the most high God over God himself but the only thing he could do was copy certian kinds of life or produce new kinds of creatures by tampering with DNA and yet scientists think they know so much about life and how it got here.
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If we took all of the scientists in the world and put all of their knowledge together they still cannot produce living,breathing life with a soul,not even Satan could he could only copy things God had already created,there is biblical evidence that Lucifer tampered with the DNA of life and tried to produce his own life and failed in front of all the other angels because he wanted to be the most high God over God himself but the only thing he could do was copy or produce new kinds of creatures by tampering with DNA and yet scientists think they know so much about life and how it got here.
y:O2 y:O2 y:O2 y:O2 y:O2 Say WHAT???!!! This should lead to some fascinating exegesis and methodology of interpretation. Sounds like something out of the Sci-Fi Bible!
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Philip wrote:
If we took all of the scientists in the world and put all of their knowledge together they still cannot produce living,breathing life with a soul,not even Satan could he could only copy things God had already created,there is biblical evidence that Lucifer tampered with the DNA of life and tried to produce his own life and failed in front of all the other angels because he wanted to be the most high God over God himself but the only thing he could do was copy or produce new kinds of creatures by tampering with DNA and yet scientists think they know so much about life and how it got here.
y:O2 y:O2 y:O2 y:O2 y:O2 Say WHAT???!!! This should lead to some fascinating exegesis and methodology of interpretation. Sounds like something out of the Sci-Fi Bible!
Yeah I know but tell me what happened with the plagues of Egypt and what kind of life Satan was able to produce and life he could not produce based on the Egyptian magicians.Remember what happened when He threw down the rod?Tell me how Satan could do that without practice.Did you know Bob Larson traveled the world researching false religions and there is a certain group of people that walk on very hot coals with bare-feet to prove their god is real and yet there feet are not burned at all and they appear to be possessed by demon spirits from doing their religious ceremonies before they walk across the coals.
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Kurieuo wrote:
Audie wrote:And sorry from me too,Ive got a fever / chills / ache i hardly know my own name.

Gotta go lie down.
You just got over being sick not long ago. Hope you get well again soon! y@};-
Thanks, Krink. Feels like the real thing this time.
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Philip wrote:Audie, I hope you feel much better tomorrow! You've probably been pulling too many all-nighters with papers due and such. Sleep well! :sleep:
You are so right, burning both ends of candle.

Thanks, you're a nice guy.
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Audie wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:
Audie wrote:And sorry from me too,Ive got a fever / chills / ache i hardly know my own name.

Gotta go lie down.
You just got over being sick not long ago. Hope you get well again soon! y@};-
Thanks, Krink. Feels like the real thing this time.
I hope you get to feeling better soon.
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Audie?

Sleep x
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If we took all of the scientists in the world and put all of their knowledge together they still cannot produce living,breathing life with a soul,not even Satan could, he could only copy things God had already created,there is biblical evidence that Lucifer tampered with the DNA of life and tried to create his own life and failed in front of all the other angels because he wanted to be the most high God over God himself but the only thing he could do was copy certian kinds of life or produce new kinds of creatures by tampering with DNA and yet scientists think they know so much about life and how it got here.

The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ (Hebrew: נפילים‎) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33 ... see also Goliath.

Genesis 6:4-5 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.…

Genetic mutations from fallen angels intermingling with human women is how the story reads. Some postulate the very reason for The Flood. The Fallen Angels so sought after and desired and had human women only a very few were left with human blood only. God's recourse to save humanity in it's purity was the Flood so that the mixed race ( Nephilim) would not survive but humanity would.

You're right curious, it is right out of sci-fi, but it's our bible.
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Audie: You are so right, burning both ends of candle.

Thanks, you're a nice guy.
Thank you, Audie!

BTW, do you actually look like your Avatar - somehow, in my mind, I think you might?
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EssentialSacrifice wrote:If we took all of the scientists in the world and put all of their knowledge together they still cannot produce living,breathing life with a soul,not even Satan could, he could only copy things God had already created,there is biblical evidence that Lucifer tampered with the DNA of life and tried to create his own life and failed in front of all the other angels because he wanted to be the most high God over God himself but the only thing he could do was copy certian kinds of life or produce new kinds of creatures by tampering with DNA and yet scientists think they know so much about life and how it got here.

The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ (Hebrew: נפילים‎) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33 ... see also Goliath.

Genesis 6:4-5 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.…

Genetic mutations from fallen angels intermingling with human women is how the story reads. Some postulate the very reason for The Flood. The Fallen Angels so sought after and desired and had human women only a very few were left with human blood only. God's recourse to save humanity in it's purity was the Flood so that the mixed race ( Nephilim) would not survive but humanity would.

You're right curious, it is right out of sci-fi, but it's our bible.
Yes,this also,it reveals Satan knew about DNA I think we can add this in with my earlier points about Lucifer except I still am probably more sci-fi biblical than you because I believe Lucifer had time to practice producing life in the former world he ruled over on this earth Isaiah 14.
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And Audie, lets say there is no God, what is the harm in believing?
Anette,
When I was an unbeliever, once I was asked similar question.
In my case, I did not want to push myself into a belief. I value(d) truth a lot. And it would be harming me to push myself into something that would not be truth. I did not want to fool myself.

Audie's reasons may be different though.

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1over137 wrote:
Storyteller wrote:
And Audie, lets say there is no God, what is the harm in believing?
Anette,
When I was an unbeliever, once I was asked similar question.
In my case, I did not want to push myself into a belief. I value(d) truth a lot. And it would be harming me to push myself into something that would not be truth. I did not want to fool myself.

Audie's reasons may be different though.

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Audie, get well soon. It's probably not a good idea to exhaust oneself to death, so take rest, find your balance.
(Then I hope you will not call God a dimbulb)
Doubt and uncertainty I can understand, I have those and I believe. I suppose it`s the denial that I cannot understand. How can anyone be so sure? I guess though, that non believers can say the same about me, how can I be so sure? I am sure because I feel it, I know it.

I found my truth in Christ.

I just wish everybody would, especially the people I care about.

And Audie, rest, and get better x
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