RickD wrote:For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. Notice that all of the other listings say "they are not 3 X's but 1 X" but when the persons are listed it is clear they are separate entities. The doctrine of said trinity, Yaweh is the Father, Jesus is the son, and the HS is just the HS. they are not 3 Gods but 1 God. I stand on "what the....." LOL
John, after all the attempts to show you what the trinity is, and IS NOT, you still refuse to accept what we believe. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one God in three persons. God is one entity, not three. Yahweh is a Hebrew name for God. Yahweh is not the Hebrew name for only the Father. If you want to continue to believe that Jesus is not God, that's your choice. You'll have to live with that choice. But I'm not going to allow you to continue misrepresenting the trinity. We've posted enough information that you can understand what you're arguing against. At this point, I'm convinced that you either want to argue against the trinity, just to be argumentative. Or, you really haven't made any attempt to understand what you're arguing against. Or both. This is a warning to stop misrepresenting what the trinity is. For the last time, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
If you have any questions, or don't understand something, please ask.
It is good for the readers to realize that john666 is from a splinter group from The Way International. These groups make dictations machines out of their members who cannot reason independently.
They have no time to reason with the Lord as Isaiah 1:18 says. For them it is easier just to repeat what their leader say and like a dictation machine simply spout talking points. Even the creed cited is a dictation talking point. That is why john666 and all 666 member of the various Way Groups only use short answers (talking Points) to answer questions. There is no depths of intelligence at work. Just talking points vagueness.
They cannot see for example that to for God to make Jesus a created being who is worthy to be worshiped in heaven as Revelation 5:11, 12, 13, 14 says (Lamb of God) is in direct violation of God’s own Commandment – the First.
Exodus 20:3, 4, 5,
"You shall have no other gods before Me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me”
God making a created being to be worshiped is in violation of the above verse As well as in direct violation from the mouth of God spoken in Isa 42:8, Isa 48:11c – God will not share his Glory with another.
God keeps his word Isaiah 55 says and performs it - His counsel will stand.
He says in Isa 45:23 that every knee will bow to Him and yet in Philippians 2:10,11 every knee will bow to Christ Jesus (a created being is against everything God says about himself not sharing his glory, he being the only savior, violating the First commandment in heaven no less is, well, the lunacy of the dictation machine from those of The Way International.
Jesus did claim he was God, yet the
way groups refuse to acknowledge this or even try to understand what Jesus meant when he said he and the Father are one (John 10:30, 31c), that he is the Beginning and End in the first chapter of Revelation, who had power to forgive sins in a manner that only God can do (Luke 5:20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25c), God who says he will never share his glory with another (Isa 42:8, Isa 48:11c), Jesus, who admitted being God when answering the High Priest (Matthew 26:64c – Isa 7:14, Isa 9:6, John 1:1, 2, 3, 14c).
God shares His Glory with NO ONE, nor will he permit another to be worshiped. People from
the way type groups cannot reason nor see the role of the Messiah as being 100% God and 100% Man. They get this confused in their dictation machine approach. Can't see the forest for trees. Can’t see any of this. Instead they worship another jesus – a created being – that causes those in heaven worshiping Christ to break the first commandment and have God break his own rules, his own words, and promises too!
The
Way groups come to their conclusions as simple minded dictation machines incapable of all and any reason. They can only answer by their cults’ talking points.
So John 666 how does it feel to teach doctrines that has God himself breaking the first commandment. If Jesus was merely a created being – then Jesus sinned by allowing himself to be worshiped as Lord no less - Matt 8:2, John 9:38, Rev 5:11, 12, 14c. God had to violate His own word in Isa 48:11c in order to share His own Glory.
Only way not to be in any Violation is the true Christian Doctrine of the (Jewish) Trinity. In fact, the entire Old Testament is the most Trinitarian book out there revealing the
Echaud of God’s true self existing nature of Oneness – unlike any concept of oneness the human mind can fully grasp; thus, fulfilling Isa 46:5 NKJV, Isa 46:9 NKJV, Deut 33:26, and Jeremiah 10:6, 7, that there is
truly none like Him.
You, John666 as the 666 implies, always seeks to reject how God's desire to reason with you (Isa 1:18c) in exchange for being the cults’ dictation machine. You asked
inspired or dictated - it is you who are the dictation machine, the very thing you despise, you've become. You actually are rejecting the inspiration (reasoning) of the Bible for talking points proven by your short talking point quips
So John666 -- Answer me this –
where in the bible does it say the Bride of Christ will be replaced, with a New Bride?
All we can do is warn you – you are in error and great danger! Actually learn to think for yourself and review everything everyone said in this post and look try to see from the bible’s POV and not what you group dictates thru scripture twisting to teach a jesus whose purpose is to have people to break the first commandment - even in heaven no less.
The Real Jesus Christ would never do this...
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