Evidence for God from Science

RickD wrote:

RickD wrote:
If you believe it's wrong, always wrong to rape a child, then you are demonstrating morality.

Ken wrote:
Morality isn’t the debate; the debate is subjective vs objective. You view objective as true inspite of what others say, and I view objective as something that is true and can be demonstrated by facts or mathematical equations.
Because morality cannot be demonstrated by facts or mathematical equations, I do not believe morality is objective.

But Kenny, you said:

Yes I get it. To you objective morality is a morality that is based in your concept of God. To me objective morality is something that does not exist because morality cannot be demonstrated.

I was just showing you that one can demonstrate morality, which you disagreed with.

So, because morality cannot be demonstrated by facts or mathematical equations(science), morality is not objective? How does that possibly follow? It makes absolutely no sense.

I hope you are not suggesting that if something cannot be demonstrated by science, it doesn't exist. Is that what you're saying?

Kenny wrote:
I have the same right to voice my subjective opinion as you have to voice God’s objective opinion; (remember I view my subjective moral opinions as superior to all others that differ just as you view God's objective moral opinion as superior to all others) and the person we are telling is just as likely to dismiss my subjective opinion as he is to dismiss God’s objective opinion.
You can claim God is right inspite of what others say, and I can claim I am right inspite of what others may say. Sounds like we're in the same boat my friend!

I'm afraid not Kenny. This is your boat:

Kenny wrote:I think I’ve made it clear over various debates when it comes to morality; it is best to keep science off the table

Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:

Kenny wrote:I think I’ve made it clear over various debates when it comes to morality; it is best to keep science off the table

Retract that, Kenny! You've just scored a goal between your own goalposts! The dummies will be all over you now.

FL