RickD wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:01 pm
Here's a good, basic layman type video that explains how the round earth model accurately predicts what we observe, and how the flat earth doesn’t have a working model, therefore among other things, is unscientific.
Because of the round earth, heliocentric model, scientists accurately predict things such as eclipses, and the return of Halley’s Comet.
The flat earth does not have a single model that can explain night and day, the seasons, and the coriolis effect. The flat earth has to have three separate models, that do not fit together as one model. Folks, that’s not science.
Sorry Rick but posting random Youtube videos isn't going to do your cause any good, you need to do a little homework.
Ok, let me address some of those issues in the first video point by point even though I'm no expert, my journey is recent, others have far greater knowledge than me. But it seems you have done zero research into flat earth.
Right from the start the video fails badly, the so called Flat Earth Society logo in the video, that is in FACT the UN's logo!!! Fail.
Guess what science is finding out that the earth might indeed be in a special position in the "universe", I suggest you look up Axis Of Evil.
Axis of evil (cosmology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil_(cosmology)
Here's a quote from Lawrence Krauss a rabid atheist.
Lawrence Krauss is quoted as follows in a 2006 Edge.org article:[5]
But when you look at CMB map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That's crazy. We're looking out at the whole universe. There's no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun – the plane of the earth around the sun – the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe.
If you look at the map that I provided it shows a simplistic path that the sun and moon take it shifts over time. It circles the earth, day in one place, night in another. And accounts for the seasons.
The globe model would have us believe that a slight shift in the earth would account for the seasons when we are supposedly 93,000,000 miles away from earth!!! Do you understand that, seriously, such a little shift would have such a major effect 93,000,000 miles away. Come on. Makes sense on the flat earth model though.
The coriolis effect is nonsense. It is a myth, ask ANY long distance sniper if he has to take the coriolis effect into account when doing long distance shooting. They don't.
Ask any tank operator in they have to take the coriolis effect into account when calculating for shooting shells. They don't. Ask any sailor on a US navy ship if they take the coriolis effect into account. They don't.
It is a myth in the REAL world.
Of course different stars are visible in different locations, the earth is huge and saying we should expect to see the same stars is ridiculous given the size of the earth and the limitations of our eyes.
Guess what the people throughout history had PERFECT working models for calculating night, day, seasons and everything else based on a FLAT earth.
They even built a device that could calculate some of these things, it's called an Astrolabe, predicting the motion of celestial bodies for over 2000 years on a flat geocentric instrument, as well as sunrise and sunset. Ignorance of history and assuming that man was dumb in the past is not a wise thing to do.
Guess what I just listened to a NATO Sea Sparrow Surface Missile Master Training Specialist and he has access to technology we can only dream of.
For instance they can "paint" a target 57 miles away with a 2 degree Pencil Beam. That is 57 miles away. That target should be 1686 feet below the curvature!!!!! BUT IT'S NOT. They can line of sight the target. Impossible on a globe earth. That is reality.
Here's the interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJOB0vc ... ur&index=3
What he also did was take the something the size of the barrel of a rifle and aim it at the star Polaris for 5 months and film it each night. Guess what, it NEVER left the tiny circle of the barrel, which is about 1 inch wide. How do you explain that. Impossible on a spinning orbiting globe earth.
Gravity is not needed. It is all about weight, mass, density and buoyancy. If it is heavier than air it will fall. Falling up nonsense is from the Flat Earth Society.
It is just as easy to circumnavigate the earth on a flat earth.
Captain Cook sailed for 3 years around Antarctica's ice wall looking for an inlet or passage way into the wall but never found one! He sailed for approximately 50,000 - 60,000 miles yet never could circumnavigate the so called continent. Let that sink in.
I showed you the way the astronauts faked the picture of the earth in the Apollo mission. Photos from NASA are not reliable. They are known to fake images, with copy and paste clouds.
There are plenty of things the globe earth can't explain.
Let's take one.
During WWII the Germans used a targeting system called "Knickebein" which sent VHF radio waves from a tower in Stollberg (distance to target Derby = 443 miles) and a tower in Kleve (distance to target Derby = 331 miles) and at the point at which they coincided that is where the bombers would release their bombs.
It was so accurate the Germans could bomb specific buildings.
The problem to this very day is that VHF beams do not bounce off the ionosphere.
The UK government said that such a targeting system would be impossible and leading scientists said such a system would not be able to follow the curvature of the earth, so lives were lost while they debated the Germans perfectly working bombing strategy.
Work it out for yourself.
Earth Curvature Calculator.
Height of the tower was 342 feet and the distance to target was 443 miles.
There should have been 117,503 feet of curvature!!! But those pesky VHF waves made it all the way to Britain. Only possible on a flat earth.
See more in this video at at 13:00.