Your mess is in claiming in other threads something along the lines of: "Jesus is God but not fully so." Either Jesus is God, or Jesus is not, there's no half/half or this percentage, that percentage.
Who says that??? YOU! Not one scripture alludes to that. To many, the bible doesn't explicitly say Jesus is God, it only alludes to it. I believe the bible DOES affirm Jesus is God,
and the words of Jesus AFFIRM God the Father is greater.
What is a mess, isn't Scripture necessarily, but rather your understanding of Scripture. Scripture is quite clear, and it was upon such Christians convened at the Council of Nicaea to formulate a logically coherent response (which you reject). And your ignoring significant parts, like Philippians 2:5-8:
I say it's your understanding of scripture that's a mess because yes, SCRIPTURE IS QUITE CLEAR, you're unwilling or unable to understand the clarity of SIMPLE verses that say the Father is greater. You would rather accept the fabricated complicated mess of a trinity which is impossible to understand! So! Let me spoon feed you and fix the mess you've created by misunderstanding Philippians 2:5-8
5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
AH! So our bibles are a contradictory mess! On one hand Jesus say's God is greater, on the other, Paul says Jesus is equal to God. Have you ever done a word study of Philippians 2? Have you ever really looked at the context? Probably NOT. So lets take this....
..."did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,"
W.E. Vine has a lot to say about this. Here is one of his quotes about HOW that verse should be understood...
(1) with the Active sense 'robbery' or 'usurpation' we get the following meaning: 'Who because He was subsisting in the essential form of God, did not regard it as any
usurpation that He was on an equality of glory and majesty with God, but yet emptied Himself of that coequal glory... '
(2) The Passive sense gives a different meaning to the passage: 'Who though He was subsisting in the essential form of God,
yet did not regard His being on an equality of glory and majesty with God as a prize and a treasure to be held fast, but emptied himself thereof."
EQUAL IN MAJESTY AND GLORY! That is what Jesus possessed before, during, and after the incarnation. There are divisions about this verse even within trinitarians. The big question is whether the word FORM refers to the outward appearance or the inner nature. Many Trinitarian sources agree that morphe(form) refers to the outward appearance and not an inner nature. So what is this telling us? Just as Vines says.
That Jesus was on an equality of glory and majesty with God, but yet emptied Himself of that coequal glory... 'NOT that Jesus is equal to God in power and strength. Jesus never lost any power, strength, or knowledge being a man. He emptied himself of the glory and majesty of God because he came to earth and became a man.
So then, it seems Jesus willingly submitted Himself to the Father. Why on earth would Jesus have ever considered such robbery of some divine entitlement, unless indeed Jesus is in His very nature fully God? And in this passage, you also have an answer to the mess you make of Scripture in other passages, like where Jesus says "the Father is greater than I," because Jesus submitted Himself in taking on the role of a servant in human form to do what needed doing in save us -- something which no one except God Himself could do.
You are repeating the typical trinitarian fabricated idea that Jesus said God is Greater because, "Jesus submitted Himself in
taking on the role of a servant in human form to do what needed doing in save u. Well. Let me inform you that Jesus didn't stop being God after his incarnation. Besides that, if it WERE the case that God was greater than Jesus because he was human, it would be implied somewhere in the text. But it's NOT! AND! If you want, I can spoon feed John 14:28 to you which PROVES God being greater has NOTHING to do with him being in human form. Read it carefully...
Ye have heard how I said unto you,
I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.