Oy, all right
let's slow down a bit.
You brought up a series of scriptures....as if these scriptrus were helping your case for YEC. What I am asking you to do is to address each one and describe to me WHY these scripture verses support YEC instead of merely pointing out God's nature. I shall adress them and point out why I think they are not verses you can use to solely support a YEC position.
sa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?
Isa 40:13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counselor hath taught him?
Isa 40:14 With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and showed to him the way of understanding?
Isa 40:15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
This points not to the age of the universe but of the power of God in relationship to mankind. NO matter what we determine, we will not equal God in understanding. Also, no mention of age (once again however, if this is your argument, then YEC'ers should remain quiet as well, for NOBODY should attempt to figure out the age question, even your 6000year estimate is trying to "measure out the waters and mete out heaven"0
Isa 40:17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isa 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
Again...why use this? Says nothing about HOw God created or How long He choose to do so. (notice I use the word choose, I do not doubt God's ability in making the universe in a split second, in six days, or in six billion years, it is WHAT happened that we are looking at)
Isa 40:21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Again, where is the verse that speaks of how long God choose to take? It merely brings up the fact that these things have been known from the beginning. (NOt when that beginning was)
Isa 40:25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.
Isa 40:26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.
Hmmmm, nothing here about the age of the universe that I can see. SO in what way are these verses useful to your position? Very nice verse, however, and wonderful to hear. God is indeed the one who created these things.
Isa 40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.
Hmmmm, NOthing about the age of the universe here. God is powerful and mighty and there is no understanding HIs understanding....nothing about the age of His creation.
Psa 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.
Psa 147:5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.
Amen, and amen....great verses....all of them in fact. They point to an amazing God whose power, might, glory, undersading, wisdom, is infinitely higher than ours. But what don't they mention? Hmmm....the age of the universe!
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
First of all, in context, these are addressing the new covenant.
This is what the LORD says,
he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar—
the LORD Almighty is his name:
36 "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,"
declares the LORD,
"will the descendants of Israel ever cease
to be a nation before me."
37 This is what the LORD says:
"Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,"
declares the LORD.
Now here I imagine you are wanting to use this verse to demonstrate the evils of measuring the earth and the universe. But I ask you....what is the context of these statements? First of all, I don't think we will ever completely be able to measure God's creation and I have never claimed we will be able to. Does that mean that our current understanding points to anything but an old univers and an old earth? no.... Secondly, we should always be careful to misapply verses. Does this verse mean that we shouldn't measure God's creation? Should we not measure tectonic activity to help predict and measure earthquakes? Should we not try to measure the heavens above to understand earth weather cycles? How far should we take this verse?
Also, again, if this is the purpose of this verse, then YEC'ers need to remain silent as well, for in their insistence about the 6000 years, are they not claiming to know the heavens can be measured?
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Amen, and amen....great verse.....Love the book of Job. Hmmm....no mention of the age of hte universe or earth!
Job 26:14 Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?
Amen.....again, love the book of Job. But first this points to God and His unmeasurable power and might and glory. Secondly....where is the mention of the age of the earth or universe? Nowhere that I can see.
I do not debate ANY of the scripture above. But how in the world you can think that these support YEC over OEC is beyond me. They all point to the wonder and majesty of God, His power, His wisdom, His unfathomable nature. Do we Old erather's deny this? Absolutely not. God's majesty and power and glory is evident in His creation as well as HIs word and they are both trustworthy.
So, here you have brought up irrelevant verses to the age question. Whereas the only real verse you can point to in in Genesis 1. Again this comes back the word YOM, which certainly CAN mean a 24 hour day. But as I have provided links about, it can very much so mean a progessive series of days. In fact, if, in Hebrew, one wanted to describe a time period with a series of days (longer than 6 days) , YOM is the best word to use!
Your MAtthew verse about Adam and Eve also has nothing to do with the AGE question. IT merely speaks to the Adam and Eve in the beginning but does not address the beginning times. I do not dismiss the historical accuracy of Genesis (as I have said over and over and over again) I and others merely look at the words in the HEBREW and see that it provides a different historical framework.
Now....I have answered your questions.
How about addressing the dreadful inaccuracies in YEC data?
