Re: James.
James' warning against "dead faith" was a warning to those believers that acted as if there was no need to do anything OTHER than belief and James was make the statement that if one truly believes then they should (not must) act in a way that is good and what example did James give?
James mentions taking care of widows and orphans, he mentions keeping a tight reign on our tongues, to NOT be partial about clothes or riches, to love your neighbour as yourself, to be righteous as Abraham was, to avoid conflicts with each other, to not be arrogant, to give freely and not hoard, to not swear by God but to be honest and truthful and to be faithful and to strength each others faith.
He also, of course, mentions the prohibition against adultery and murder.
The epistle of James is often views as the most "legalistic" or "works based" epistle, BUT reading it with open mind and love, we see that is not the case at all.
If we look at the "Law" in James, He explicitly mentions only:
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Do not murder
Do not commit adultery
Care for widows and orphans
DO not cast judgment against another.
Baptism
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Re: Baptism
So, you're arguing that if one does not get baptized, they must not have a true enough relationship with Christ to get into heaven?1over137 wrote:Sam, jlay: The question is whether one truly believes in Christ with his heart. There are terms like saving faith and dead faith. If you wish we can discuss that in new thread.
I do not feel like a victim of religion. I myself read Bible and see there what pleases Christ. Why not to try to do what pleases God? What kind of relationship one does have with Christ if he thinks he can ignore Christ's wishes?
If that is the case, I strongly disagree, but in case this was not your point I won't go into any further detail.
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Re: Baptism
Sam, I do not want to say that if one does not get baptized he does not have good relationship with Christ. I do not know other's people reasons. I do not know other's people hearts. But being rebellious may be some indicator.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: Baptism
Ah, ok. I see your meaning now.1over137 wrote:Sam, I do not want to say that if one does not get baptized he does not have good relationship with Christ. I do not know other's people reasons. I do not know other's people hearts. But being rebellious may be some indicator.
SB
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