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Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:18 pm
by RickD
Audie wrote:Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Audie wrote:Avoid stating opinions as facts, and I wont complain. Your impressionsof me are generally way off.
I think you are a wonderful Chinadoll. Am I way off? ...
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!
Audie wrote: I dont do light touch, and yes wound very tight.Its a Hong Kong disease, you catch it at birth.
OK...if you like things rough, get yourself a BMW Z4 or a Corvette Stingray as soon as you start earning Big Money suing people out of house & home

Leave the Porsches & Jaguars to the squeeky-voiced, sissy male lawyers.
Audie wrote:As to your impression of yourself, im sure you are lovable, who could stay annoyed with you?
I think Proinsias hates me...
Audie wrote:Sorry about getting excitable but thats as me as lovable is you.
Cut the Starbucks! Relax & have some wine! There are some excellent wines out of California. Aussie wines are great as well, especially the whites because they have a slight eucalyptus nuance...very refreshing.
FL

I was thinking of a Vincent Black Shadow, and a quart of Wild Turkey.
How about sake? Don't all proper Japanese women drink sake?
Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:33 pm
by Proinsias
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:I think Proinsias hates me...
Oh dear, not the case at all

Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:00 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:58 am
by Jac3510
To go back to an older point between hap and myself, without going into details, he has persuaded me that my initial concern that his claims to being open-minded were less than forthright are probably ill-founded. If anyone reads that and notices the careful wording and apparent qualifiers, I acknowledge and own them. Outside the context of our private discussion, I think my original point stands as a valid concern given what is publicly available. Still, given that context, I am convinced that his public remarks can be construed in a significantly more favorable light than I originally allowed.
My point in all this is a public acknowledgment that my worry that Hap is "playing games" are settled. I don't think he is doing that after all. So yay for communication!
edit: I am an idiot. I missed some other important posts in another thread. So let me say with no qualifications that I was completely mistaken in my previous statements on hap's openmindedness. Again, I repent in dust and ashes! Since I made the claim publicly, I hope this public apology means at least a little something.
Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:29 pm
by Jac3510
Bumped so as not to bury apology above.
Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:53 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Jac3510 wrote:edit: I am an idiot. I missed some other important posts in another thread. So let me say with no qualifications that I was completely mistaken in my previous statements on hap's openmindedness. Again, I repent in dust and ashes! Since I made the claim publicly, I hope this public apology means at least a little something.
I hope Kenny can learn to admit he was wrong one day.
I won't be holding my breath.
FL

Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:11 pm
by leo7alves
Hi, i just wish you guys analyse this phrase i've see in another forum:
"Because belief is a detraction of not using our desire to learn. When you don't use your desire to learn you will get mentally sick and fall into belief. ""
"You don't believe things happen, you understand they can. Everything is a learning process not a belief process, you learn first then understand why things are and can happen. Then if you get it right one day you'll get to know everything in life. "
he also said faith is not belief
Does it make any sense, sounds crazy but i want a good response to that
Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:56 pm
by 1over137
I do not understand all of the post, esp. the end but I would like to say that there are many believers who greatly desire to learn. I would not call them mentally sick.
Re: What is faith to you?
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:55 pm
by B. W.
leo7alves wrote:Hi, i just wish you guys analyse this phrase i've see in another forum:
". When you don't use your desire to learn you will get mentally sick and fall into belief. ""
"You don't believe things happen, you understand they can. Everything is a learning process not a belief process, you learn first then understand why things are and can happen. Then if you get it right one day you'll get to know everything in life. "
he also said faith is not belief
Does it make any sense, sounds crazy but i want a good response to that
Sound something according to BF Skinner's behaviorism's model ( see quote below).
"...not everyone is willing to defend a position of 'not knowing.' There is no virtue in ignorance for its own sake.”
― B.F. Skinner
However please note that the last sentence is in itself a statement of belief:
Then if you get it right one day you'll get to know everything in life which by the way of
Freudian slip indicates the author of these statements maybe not be aware of condemning his own mental state...
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