"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
https://discussions.godandscience.org/
Names that people know:Audie wrote:To whom is atheism a badge of honour?
Evidence that they consider it a "badge of honour"?PaulSacramento wrote:Names that people know:Audie wrote:To whom is atheism a badge of honour?
Richard Dawkins
Sam Harris
Daniel Dennet
PZ Meyers
Pretty much anyone that calls themselves "humanists".
Pretty much anyone that posts on Atheist blog's and websites such as http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/
Pretty much anyone that thinks religion is the cause of everything bad.
Pretty much anyone that is a militant atheist.
I can go on...
It seems to be for You. And other atheists I've known.Audie wrote:To whom is atheism a badge of honour?
PaulSacramento wrote:Have you read some of the things that some atheists post against Christianity?Are there Really people who are Truly Ignorant Of Christianity?!
Yes, many people are ignorant of Christianity.
Do you think that everyone in Seychelles knows Christ?
Or Burkina Faso?
You think that every 6 year old Child in Kazakhstan knows Christ?
How about 16 year old kids in Benin?
My point is that the physical probability of the TRUE Gospel reaching everyone is very slim, though it gets less and less as times go by.
God KNOWS who are His, even those that don't know Him yet.
So -- what Is the True Gospel message. A Christian is a Christ-follower, correct?PaulSacramento wrote:You do realize that there are groups the profess to be Christian's and have a different Gospel message, right?
Yes, but what about those groups that add to the gospel with conditions, like the JW's for example.crochet1949 wrote:So -- what Is the True Gospel message. A Christian is a Christ-follower, correct?PaulSacramento wrote:You do realize that there are groups the profess to be Christian's and have a different Gospel message, right?
crochet1949 wrote:It seems to be for You. And other atheists I've known.Audie wrote:To whom is atheism a badge of honour?
Audie wrote:crochet1949 wrote:It seems to be for You. And other atheists I've known.Audie wrote:To whom is atheism a badge of honour?
Seems so, to you I guess.
What do you mean by "badge of honor"?
crochet1949 wrote:Audie wrote:crochet1949 wrote:It seems to be for You. And other atheists I've known.Audie wrote:To whom is atheism a badge of honour?
Seems so, to you I guess.
What do you mean by "badge of honor"?
A person who believes that 'intellectualism' is synonymous with 'no need for a 'god' / God' -- that the ToE has all the answers so what more is Needed. That mind-set is what I call a "badge of honor".
IF there are such people, I never have run across one, and you certainly misread me if you think that is how i think. Those are the thoughts of a very shallow stupid person.
That a person who is 'intellectually honest' will concede that Apparently they are not knowledgeable enough in supportive sciences to make a truly informed decision regarding Tof E and that it's okay to admit to THAT Rather than continue in their misguided / eroneous beliefs.
You might want to re write that, I dont really understand it.
I have said that it is impossible to be a well informed creationist, and still be intellectually honest.
I have never heard anyone offer a way to show ToE is false the is not a misrepresentation, strawman, falsehood, half truth, or something of the sort.
This is either done out of ignorance, or dishonesty.
No scientist on earth has ever come up with a way to show it is false; claims
that one can show it is have never turned out.
Take all that as you will.
Not that I endorse that as being my attitude, but, lets turn it around.And to purposely Continue in those erroneous beliefs shows just how stubborn people Can Be.
What would you call it?
I never heard of "intellectual honour".So -- That would be a 'badge of honor" for an atheist. "Intellectual honor'.
Intellectualism knows no religious boundaries that I am aware of.
I Kinda think it is good to use the brain.
Intellectual honesty is a problem everyone has, it being the case that pure objectivity is impossible.
It is a highest value in any research to strive for objectivity.
However, not everyone even makes an effort to be objective, far from it; religious and political ideologs make it a badge of honour to hold fast the faith absolutely regardless.
My example of Dr K Weiss is a type specimen for that. He WILL go with what
the Bible SEEMS (to him) to say, and to hell,you know, with any evidence that might show he is mistaken.
Who bothers to give a flyin' flip what "Dawkins' says?PaulSacramento wrote:Remember the whole "brights" fiasco, when Dawkins and Co wanted atheists to call themselves "brights" ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brights_movement
LMAO !
I think in general it is better to talk to people who are actually present, and see what their views are, rather than pick out ones not present, probably extremists of some sort that none of us know or care about, and present them as typical or representative of 'atheists", or, "Christians".PaulSacramento wrote:It wasn't just Dawkins Audie.