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The angel of god
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:46 pm
by Deborah
I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
Re: The angel of god
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:23 am
by BavarianWheels
Deborah wrote:I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
To prove the question is to prove your denial. Circular.
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Re: The angel of god
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:05 am
by Deborah
BavarianWheels wrote:Deborah wrote:I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
To prove the question is to prove your denial. Circular.
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and that means what?
I already have scripture for, so help would have been helpfull not silly comments I do not understand
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:20 am
by Kurieuo
"Angel" can simply mean "messenger" in Hebrew. I think it plausible that the Angel of the Lord is Christ. Some things to note is that Jacob fought wrestled with a man who was identified as God (Genesis 32:24-30), but later on in Hosea we find out this man was an angel (or messenger):
- 4 He struggled with the angel and overcame him;
he wept and begged for his favor.
He found him at Bethel
and talked with him there-
5 the LORD God Almighty,
the LORD is his name of renown!
In Malachi 3:1 we also have:
- "See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty."
I believe there are other examples to be found also. Researching on Google I'm sure would turn up some sites.
Kurieuo.
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:07 pm
by Deborah
I found this passage
Exodus 23:20-22
20 "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
Firstly if this is only an angel or even a Arc Angel then how does he have the power not to forgive?
Re: The angel of god
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:47 pm
by BavarianWheels
Deborah wrote:BavarianWheels wrote:Deborah wrote:I know Jesus was not the arch angel Micheal.
My question was the Angel of God Jesus ?
Please offer proof for and against according to scripure.
To prove the question is to prove your denial. Circular.
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and that means what?
I already have scripture for, so help would have been helpfull not silly comments I do not understand
I thought it was pretty plain. Sorry to offend you with such an short answer out of your realm of understanding.
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:12 pm
by Kurieuo
Deborah wrote:I found this passage
Exodus 23:20-22
20 "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
Firstly if this is only an angel or even a Arc Angel then how does he have the power not to forgive?
I'm not sure I understand. Don't we all have the power to forgive or not forgive?
Kurieuo.
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:01 pm
by BavarianWheels
Kurieuo wrote:Deborah wrote:I found this passage
Exodus 23:20-22
20 "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
Firstly if this is only an angel or even a Arc Angel then how does he have the power not to forgive?
I'm not sure I understand. Don't we all have the power to forgive or not forgive?
Kurieuo.
Sure...sins committed against us specifically...
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:05 pm
by Kurieuo
Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Kurieuo.
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:53 pm
by BavarianWheels
Kurieuo wrote:Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Kurieuo.
That's what I'm here for...clarification.
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