Nephilim article...
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:38 pm
"Some Christian have speculated that the "sons of God" from Genesis 6 were demonic beings, who had sexual relations with human women, and are now condemned to future judgment.9 However, Jesus made it clear that angels are asexual beings who do not engage in sexual relations at all.10 Since demons are merely fallen angels,11 they would, likewise, be unable to procreate with women."
There are a few flaws with this. For starters, the assumption that angels cannot engage in sexual relations. The verse used to support this is the following:
"On that day some Sadducees (who say there is no resurrection) came to Him and questioned Him, saying, "Teacher, Moses said, 'IF A MAN DIES, HAVING NO CHILDREN, HIS BROTHER AS NEXT OF KIN SHALL MARRY HIS WIFE, AND RAISE UP AN OFFSPRING TO HIS BROTHER.' "Now there were seven brothers with us; and the first married and died, and having no offspring left his wife to his brother; so also the second, and the third, down to the seventh. "And last of all, the woman died. "In the resurrection therefore whose wife of the seven shall she be? For they all had her." But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God. "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (Matthew 22:23-30) "
My problem with this is the following: In the realm of Heaven, there is no need for sex, because all spirits are immortal. However, on Earth, this is not the same. When God Himself came to us, He came as a male. Humans are male and female. Angels have been known to come to Earth and take a human form(usually male as well). I believe the angels who entered Sodom were male as well. So, while angels are asexual in Heaven(Like the rest of its occupants, from God to human), by no means does it imply that upon taking a body on earth, they have to stay that way.
Gen 19:2
I propose to you a different alternative.
What if the Nephilim were the gods of ancient polytheistic religions? I know short to nothing about Egyptian and Hindu gods(Apart from the fact that some of the Hindu gods were great warriors, much like the Nephilim supposedly were). Hinduism originated in Assyria, which was also in the Middle East(Modern day Iraq I believe). What I do know however, are the Greek mythis, with which I grew up. When I first saw the passage about the "Sons of God", my mind jumped straight to Zeus, and within a few seconds, to the fact that almost every single male god would impregnate mortal women. If the nephilim were indeed fallen angels(as i suspect they were), it only makes sense that they would be like the greek gods, which were well known for their brutal treatment of humans, their almost non-existant moral code and their sexual "freedom". Apollo himself is often portrayed as a beautiful winged male, which is what an angel looks like to us. The Greeks also have a flood account, which they blamed on Zeus(And Zeus was probably to blame, although I doubt he started it). I wonder if the battle with the Titans wasn't also simbolic. The titans were basically gigantic gods(the gods themselves were larger than humans). Zeus and his gods supposedly won the battle, but what if the battle with the titans wasn't in reality the battle between the forces of God and those of Satan? Having been cast down to earth, the Nephilim could simply lie and say they won. Typhon himself reminds me of the description of God casting Satan(the dragon, which is what Typhon actually was) out of Heaven. I am definitely going to do more research in the subject, these are just some preliminary ideas. Let me know what you think.
There are a few flaws with this. For starters, the assumption that angels cannot engage in sexual relations. The verse used to support this is the following:
"On that day some Sadducees (who say there is no resurrection) came to Him and questioned Him, saying, "Teacher, Moses said, 'IF A MAN DIES, HAVING NO CHILDREN, HIS BROTHER AS NEXT OF KIN SHALL MARRY HIS WIFE, AND RAISE UP AN OFFSPRING TO HIS BROTHER.' "Now there were seven brothers with us; and the first married and died, and having no offspring left his wife to his brother; so also the second, and the third, down to the seventh. "And last of all, the woman died. "In the resurrection therefore whose wife of the seven shall she be? For they all had her." But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God. "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (Matthew 22:23-30) "
My problem with this is the following: In the realm of Heaven, there is no need for sex, because all spirits are immortal. However, on Earth, this is not the same. When God Himself came to us, He came as a male. Humans are male and female. Angels have been known to come to Earth and take a human form(usually male as well). I believe the angels who entered Sodom were male as well. So, while angels are asexual in Heaven(Like the rest of its occupants, from God to human), by no means does it imply that upon taking a body on earth, they have to stay that way.
Gen 19:2
I propose to you a different alternative.
What if the Nephilim were the gods of ancient polytheistic religions? I know short to nothing about Egyptian and Hindu gods(Apart from the fact that some of the Hindu gods were great warriors, much like the Nephilim supposedly were). Hinduism originated in Assyria, which was also in the Middle East(Modern day Iraq I believe). What I do know however, are the Greek mythis, with which I grew up. When I first saw the passage about the "Sons of God", my mind jumped straight to Zeus, and within a few seconds, to the fact that almost every single male god would impregnate mortal women. If the nephilim were indeed fallen angels(as i suspect they were), it only makes sense that they would be like the greek gods, which were well known for their brutal treatment of humans, their almost non-existant moral code and their sexual "freedom". Apollo himself is often portrayed as a beautiful winged male, which is what an angel looks like to us. The Greeks also have a flood account, which they blamed on Zeus(And Zeus was probably to blame, although I doubt he started it). I wonder if the battle with the Titans wasn't also simbolic. The titans were basically gigantic gods(the gods themselves were larger than humans). Zeus and his gods supposedly won the battle, but what if the battle with the titans wasn't in reality the battle between the forces of God and those of Satan? Having been cast down to earth, the Nephilim could simply lie and say they won. Typhon himself reminds me of the description of God casting Satan(the dragon, which is what Typhon actually was) out of Heaven. I am definitely going to do more research in the subject, these are just some preliminary ideas. Let me know what you think.
