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Microevolution, thoughts

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Do christians generally believe in microevolution?
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I think so, I definately do. There's some good christian sites regarding this (read the links I sent you in your Private Messages, if you haven't already.)
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Where do I access these private messages?
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Uh, up where it says "You have 1 messages". Don't ever forget to look at that.
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What is microevolution?

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From what I understand, micro is evolution in animals that includes mutations and natural selection, and what-not. Macro deals with actual changes in species.

There is an article on this site, with a more in depth explanation.

http://evidence.info/evolution/evolution.html
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microevolution is evolution. what a lot of creationists fail to consider is that, over a long period of time, small changes add up to big changes. the theory of evolution theorizes that small changes occur due to mostly gene differentiation and partly gene mutation, and the organism's probability of survival based on their environment. over thousands or millions of years, these small changes add up. the rate of change depends on how long it takes for the organism to reach sexual maturity and reproduce (if it ever does). evolution in bacteria can be seen right before your eyes because they reproduce constantly, but it takes hundreds of thousands of years for organisms like hominids to evolve, because our lifespan is so drawn out.

another thing, why is the theory of evolution seen as an atheist view? i find it extremely possible and quite probable that god does not take an active role in the progression of the universe, and that he keeps track of things through the 'laws' that science is currently discovering. woulnd't an omnipotent being be able to do this? and wouldn't an omnipotent being be more likely to create a self-sustaining (or at least partly self-sustaining) universe? the way i see it, no science lessens the power of god, in fact i would venture to say that all science reveals how intricate and perfect the universe has been made.
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Zenith wrote:another thing, why is the theory of evolution seen as an atheist view? i find it extremely possible and quite probable that god does not take an active role in the progression of the universe, and that he keeps track of things through the 'laws' that science is currently discovering. woulnd't an omnipotent being be able to do this? and wouldn't an omnipotent being be more likely to create a self-sustaining (or at least partly self-sustaining) universe? the way i see it, no science lessens the power of god, in fact i would venture to say that all science reveals how intricate and perfect the universe has been made.
It is seen as an atheist view because of the exact reasons that you stated, it removes a theistic God and installs a deistic god. Why do some of the major biology texts, and some articles written by evolutionists, in science magazines and journals state that evolution removes the need for God, if it was so obvious that the two are compatible?
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Zenith: No matter how much time you have, you cannot make a single-celled organism become a fish or a fish become an amphibian, or a mammal, or an ape become a person, or a dinosaur become a bird. That is macroevolution.

There is no proof for macroevolution.

There is proof for microevolution--small changes. Small changes that never become big enough to make anything something else.
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Mystical wrote:Zenith: No matter how much time you have, you cannot make a single-celled organism become a fish or a fish become an amphibian, or a mammal, or an ape become a person, or a dinosaur become a bird. That is macroevolution.

There is no proof for macroevolution.

There is proof for microevolution--small changes. Small changes that never become big enough to make anything something else.
Will microevolution allow this?

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That's a cool question. My first answer would be no because the flying squirrel is not a subspecies of the grey squirrel. I am going to research this and I will let you know if I change my mind.
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BGoodForGoodSake wrote: Will microevolution allow this?

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Can God create that?
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August wrote:
BGoodForGoodSake wrote: Will microevolution allow this?

Can God create that?
Of course!
=)

But microevolution has been shown to be true, this could possibly fall under microevolution.
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LOL

We are chasing each other around like those grey squirrels do in spring.
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August wrote:LOL

We are chasing each other around like those grey squirrels do in spring.
=)
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