The parable of the sheep and goat
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:06 am
Revelation: 11
"1": And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and MEASURE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
It is in scripture. Measure the temple of god.
How come everytime someone tries to measure the temple of god, the church says, Thou shalt Not measure this temple!
Tell me--what is Christ's words worth if they cannot be measured against church doctrine. And tell me (think long and hard)--does the church come in the name of christ, to do the will of god or to do its own?
If thou knowest it all declare it unto me.
The sheep, the lamb, is an image of the church. A representation of the followers of christ. Agree?
Only when it is convenient. Let me show you such an image (denied by the church); a reflection according to prophecy:
Daniel: 8
"1": In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
"2": And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
"3": Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
"4": I saw the RAM(SHEEP) pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
"5": And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
"6": And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had there seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
"7": And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
"8": Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
"9": And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
"10": And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
"11": Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
"12": And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
note: a ram is a sheep.
Yes. I know. The church sees not its reflection in the mirror, out of convenience.
Yet, if you refer to genesis; where cain slew able. Remember, Able was a keeper of sheep. That holds relevance to the church, correct?
Of course, out of convenience because the church does not want to see any impurities within its reflection.
Do not judge and you will not be judged. Yet, the church judges all the time.
It doesn't?
Speak to me of morality. Got any judgements on homosexual marriage or drug use?
Man creates his own sins. It was not enough for man to have all his old sins, he had to create new ones; therefore, those with power (and all power is corruptible)condemned those that had not. Now, it is even a sin to cheat on your taxes. It is even a sin not to capitalize the word god or lord.
(Those things you hate do not do).
That is why when man speaks of god, he only speaks of the portion he knows; and Hates! that which is added or taken away from his portion. Therefore, man has closed is own eyes and ears, on his own accord.
Luke: 19
"26": For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
And what is the fear of god? Tell me--if god is love (perfect love) then what god would replace love with fear. What perfect love strikes fear?
I tell you. It was man who put the fear of god into man out of his own insecurities, his own blemishes, his own impurities, his own guilt.
And god came because he wanted to be loved?
No, christ came because man wanted to be loved.
"1": And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and MEASURE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
It is in scripture. Measure the temple of god.
How come everytime someone tries to measure the temple of god, the church says, Thou shalt Not measure this temple!
Tell me--what is Christ's words worth if they cannot be measured against church doctrine. And tell me (think long and hard)--does the church come in the name of christ, to do the will of god or to do its own?
If thou knowest it all declare it unto me.
The sheep, the lamb, is an image of the church. A representation of the followers of christ. Agree?
Only when it is convenient. Let me show you such an image (denied by the church); a reflection according to prophecy:
Daniel: 8
"1": In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
"2": And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
"3": Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
"4": I saw the RAM(SHEEP) pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
"5": And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
"6": And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had there seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
"7": And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
"8": Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
"9": And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
"10": And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
"11": Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
"12": And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
note: a ram is a sheep.
Yes. I know. The church sees not its reflection in the mirror, out of convenience.
Yet, if you refer to genesis; where cain slew able. Remember, Able was a keeper of sheep. That holds relevance to the church, correct?
Of course, out of convenience because the church does not want to see any impurities within its reflection.
Do not judge and you will not be judged. Yet, the church judges all the time.
It doesn't?
Speak to me of morality. Got any judgements on homosexual marriage or drug use?
Man creates his own sins. It was not enough for man to have all his old sins, he had to create new ones; therefore, those with power (and all power is corruptible)condemned those that had not. Now, it is even a sin to cheat on your taxes. It is even a sin not to capitalize the word god or lord.
(Those things you hate do not do).
That is why when man speaks of god, he only speaks of the portion he knows; and Hates! that which is added or taken away from his portion. Therefore, man has closed is own eyes and ears, on his own accord.
Luke: 19
"26": For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
And what is the fear of god? Tell me--if god is love (perfect love) then what god would replace love with fear. What perfect love strikes fear?
I tell you. It was man who put the fear of god into man out of his own insecurities, his own blemishes, his own impurities, his own guilt.
And god came because he wanted to be loved?
No, christ came because man wanted to be loved.
Cute. Do you look like a snake? or just feel like one?