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Becoming a Saint

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:27 pm
by Mystical
What are the qualifications to become a saint as deemed by the Catholic Church?

RE:

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:13 am
by Ark~Magic
It doesn't matter. It's another catholic superstition.

Re: Becoming a Saint

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:02 am
by Byblos
Mystical wrote:What are the qualifications to become a saint as deemed by the Catholic Church?
There are only 2 qualifications:

1. To be a martyr of the faith (to die in the name of Christ or on in defense of Him)

and / or

2. To perform at least one act that cannot be naturally explained (a miracle)

Here's a link that has more info and a beautiful story about the canonization of Edith Stein, a Jewish convert who did perform a miracle (curing a little girl) and who also died for the faith when a note that was written by her was discovered after her death (in a gas chamber for being both a Catholic and of Jewsish ancestory). The note stated that she would give up her life for the salvation of Jews.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articl ... e0136.html

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:52 pm
by Mystical
Byblos: Thanks. I'll take a look at that.

Re: RE:

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:40 am
by numeral2_5
Ark~Magic wrote:It doesn't matter. It's another catholic superstition.
I agree.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:55 am
by Forge
Bah Humbug.

I have to research, but it involves a number of declared miracles.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:57 am
by numeral2_5
Forge wrote:Bah Humbug.

I have to research, but it involves a number of declared miracles.
People can't perform miracles, thats ridiculous.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:59 am
by Forge
Is that so? Peter was a person, and he performed miracles.

Ah, it's a weird subject. Basically, if someone implores the intercession of a holy person and gets [some?] a miracle, the person appealed to will be become a saint.

That's a simpe, bastardized version. I probably have holes all over the place.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:01 am
by numeral2_5
Doesn't god do it, though people? It seems self glorifying to say the people did it.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:03 am
by Forge
Wel, yes. I never meant to imply that people do it by themselves.

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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:06 pm
by Veronica
Ark~Magic wrote:It doesn't matter. It's another catholic superstition.
Oh? Here's a little information about the saints: http://catholiceducation.org/articles/a ... p0151.html

*thinks I may have posted that article in a different discussion* Oh well ;)

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:32 pm
by R7-12
The Bible gives the identification and qualifications of those whom God calls saints - Rev. 14:12, 12:17.

R7-12

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:03 am
by Mathetes
Also, Ephesians 1:1. Paul writes to living people and calls them saints, so obviously the RC view is not in line with Biblical thought.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:41 pm
by Veronica
There are different definitions of saints ;)

"Saints: i. In the New Testament the word 'saints' is often used to designate all Christians of a place, as we should say "the faithful" ii. One whose Holiness of life and heroic virtue have been confirmaed and recognized by the Church's official process of beatification and canonization." (A Catholic Dictionary)

And of course, once we enter heaven we are all deemed as saints 8) The only difference is people on earth don't know if we've made it to heaven, unless we are canonized a saint by the church ;)

God bless!
Veronica ” 

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:48 pm
by bizzt
Veronica wrote:There are different definitions of saints ;)

"Saints: i. In the New Testament the word 'saints' is often used to designate all Christians of a place, as we should say "the faithful" ii. One whose Holiness of life and heroic virtue have been confirmaed and recognized by the Church's official process of beatification and canonization." (A Catholic Dictionary)

And of course, once we enter heaven we are all deemed as saints 8) The only difference is people on earth don't know if we've made it to heaven, unless we are canonized a saint by the church ;)

God bless!
Veronica ” 
How does the Church know a Person has gone to Heaven?