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Intelligent Design: Models

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:07 pm
by Kurieuo
I notice many appear confused over distinctions between philosophical design arguments for God, Creationism (Young Earth), and Intelligent Design. I'm hoping the question posed will help to clarify what ID is.

Which ID model seems most plausible to you?

1) Directed Panspermia (e.g., as advocated by Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of the DNA structure).
2) RTB's Creation Model
3) Young-Earth Creationism
4) Flying Spaghetti Monster Creationism
5) Other

Kurieuo

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:30 pm
by Mystical
Could you post a description of Young-Earth Creationism. I don't know much about it.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:35 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Not worth reading about (I should know)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:56 pm
by Believer
Directed Panspermia is by Intelligent guided means, but then that means evolution happened, which I wouldn't have a problem with at all in this case. It is when people claim that everything came from nothing I have issues with. I voted for the RTB's Creation Model. :)

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:28 am
by Fortigurn
I'm fascinated by the RTB model. What I would really like to see is evidence not only that it predicts certain scientific discoveries, but that such predictions have been made.

Otherwise I would change the word to 'anticipates' rather than 'predicts'.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:29 am
by Forge
All hail pasta monsters!

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:51 am
by Naturalist Jayhawker
None - I'm really not a big fan of "Intelligent Design".

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:59 am
by Jbuza
Mystical wrote:Could you post a description of Young-Earth Creationism. I don't know much about it.
I think that it may have been assumed that everyone knew what young earth creation is.

It is derived from the historical time line provided in the Bible, and depends on a simple reading of the first bit of Genesis.

Other than that bit it is the exact same observations and measurments used in "science".

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:38 pm
by Mystical
I guess that means I should looke it up for myself? Will do. :cry:

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:47 pm
by bizzt
Mystical wrote:I guess that means I should looke it up for myself? Will do. :cry:
Answers in Genesis is probably the Best site

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:54 pm
by Kurieuo
Mystical wrote:Could you post a description of Young-Earth Creationism. I don't know much about it.
There is a brief description by Norman Geisler at http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/science/SC0305W3.htm/, and also a more deeper take see http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/science/SC0704W1.htm. That should explain things, including the differences, arguments each side, and so forth.

Kurieuo