Evidence for God from Science

I want to thank the atheists/agnostics on this site for helping me to come to a greater understanding of God and His word. I don't know if you guys already fully understood this, but I did not. Many questions from the atheists sent me on a search and I found this:

Ligers, Wholphins, and Zorses

Mystical wrote:I want to thank the atheists/agnostics on this site for helping me to come to a greater understanding of God and His word. I don't know if you guys already fully understood this, but I did not. Many questions from the atheists sent me on a search and I found this:

Ligers, Wholphins, and Zorses

So all cats came from one place and migrated to the rest of the world?

So why do snow leopards have a white coat?
And why do tigers have stripes and leopards have spots?

So all cats came from one place and migrated to the rest of the world?

I don't know about the migration process, but, yeah, they all came from one place. Of course we don't know how many different kinds there were initially. That's still a good question, though! I wonder now, how big was the Garden of Eden, and how many animals in it before the fall? Anyone on here know if there are thoughts about this by experts?

So why do snow leopards have a white coat?
Why do tigers have stripes and leopards have spots?

My guess is microevolution.

Mystical wrote:

So all cats came from one place and migrated to the rest of the world?

I don't know about the migration process, but, yeah, they all came from one place. Of course we don't know how many different kinds there were initially. That's still a good question, though! I wonder now, how big was the Garden of Eden, and how many animals in it before the fall? Anyone on here know if there are thoughts about this by experts?

It wouldn't matter because they had to spread again after the flood.

Mystical wrote:

So why do snow leopards have a white coat?
Why do tigers have stripes and leopards have spots?

My guess is microevolution.

But isn't coat color new information?

But isn't coat color new information?

Non sequitor.

And extra terrestrial art student got bored... duh!

It wouldn't matter...

You're the one who asked.

But isn't coat color new information?

Is it? If they all started off from one or two kinds of cats, is it impossible for there to have been enough information available to create variety? Remember, no one knows the number of different kinds at the start.

Mystical wrote:

It wouldn't matter...

You're the one who asked.

I asked to provoke thought and to see what your response would be.

Mystical wrote:

But isn't coat color new information?

Is it? If they all started off from one or two kinds of cats, is it impossible for there to have been enough information available to create variety? Remember, no one knows the number of different kinds at the start.

But the article you linked to proposed that Lions and Tigers were at one time the same kind, because they can hybridize.
Did the tiger lose its mane?

Also camels and llamas. What did the original Camel-llama look like?

BGood:

I asked to provoke thought...

I was already thinking.

But the article you linked to proposed that Lions and Tigers were at one time the same kind...

Do I have to repeat myself?

Did the tiger lose its mane?

I don't know exactly how it all happened. I know you definately don't know. All we can do is play with the ideas. I have modified my thoughts on the beginning. Maybe God created one or two big cats and not exactly all the ones we have now. Maybe to start off they didn't look much like they do now.

What did the original Camel-llama look like?

Probably like Rama. That's not a very prompting question

Mystical wrote:BGood:

I asked to provoke thought...

I was already thinking.

Sorry didn't mean to imply that you weren't
=(

Mystical wrote:

But the article you linked to proposed that Lions and Tigers were at one time the same kind...

Do I have to repeat myself?

Did the tiger lose its mane?

I don't know exactly how it all happened. I know you definately don't know. All we can do is play with the ideas. I have modified my thoughts on the beginning. Maybe God created one or two big cats and not exactly all the ones we have now. Maybe to start off they didn't look much like they do now.

So how does one explain all the new forms and colors and features.

Mystical wrote:

What did the original Camel-llama look like?

Probably like Rama. That's not a very prompting question

Well camels and llamas are very different. The original form must of had a hump, according to the idea proposed in the paper, right?

BGood:

Didn't mean to imply that you weren't.

I'm okay.

So how does one explain all the new forms and colors and features.

I really don't understand what you're confused about.

Welll camels and llamas are very different. The original form must of had a hump, according to the idea proposed in the paper, right?

I have an idea. Why don't we google Rama and see what it looks like!

Ah! She's cute!

Rama

Mystical wrote:Ah! She's cute!

Rama

The reason I bring this up is because Camel and Llamas are different.

LLamas 1st premolar is a different shape than in a camel.
No dorsal hump.
A llamas feet have toes each with their own pad, while a camel has a single pad.
Different blood chemistry, llama's seem more adapted for high altitudes.
Diminutive size.
No ridges on a llama skull.
Changes in digestion (gastrointestinal motility).

Is there a limit to the changes?
What changes are allowed and which are not?
So far Bone size, Dental structure, Dental arrangement, Hemoglobin, Foot Pad morphology, Skull ridges, Body size, Gastrointestinal Motility seem to be ok as changes under the theory that kinds came from a single pair.

If you want we can examine ligers, zorses, wolphins, Genae, Bos, Pumapard, Jaglions, each in turn.

Camel and llamas are different.

I noticed that.

Is there a limit to the changes? What changes are allowed and which are not?

I don't know, I'm not God. But I've wondered that.

If you want we can examine..., each in turn.

What will you examine them for? What do you think you'll find when you examine them? I found a cool site with all of them listed...I was thinking of you! Tomorrow I'll try to put it on for you and try to say something intelligent to go along with it.

Mystical wrote:

Camel and llamas are different.

I noticed that.

Is there a limit to the changes? What changes are allowed and which are not?

I don't know, I'm not God. But I've wondered that.

If you want we can examine..., each in turn.

What will you examine them for?

Just because it better to examine then pretend to know.

Mystical wrote:What do you think you'll find when you examine them? I found a cool site with all of them listed...I was thinking of you! Tomorrow I'll try to put it on for you and try to say something intelligent to go along with it.

=)
Thanks.

When I first saw your name I knew you were a good mushroom.