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Temptation
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:32 pm
by Jay_7
What if satan and his demons didnt turn bad? What would have God done too tempt us to sin?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:51 pm
by Jbuza
James 1:12 Happy is the one who endures testing, because when he has proven to be genuine, he will receive the crown of life that God promised to those who love him. 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted by evil, and he himself tempts no one. 1:14 But each one is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desires. 1:15 Then when desire conceives, it gives birth to sin, and when sin is full grown, it gives birth to death. 1:16 Do not be led astray, my dear brothers and sisters.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:57 pm
by Jay_7
thanks. So if the satan and all didn't fall from heaven, would there be less temptation? or the same?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:05 pm
by Jbuza
Jay_7 wrote:thanks. So if the satan and all didn't fall from heaven, would there be less temptation? or the same?
Don't know about that too much. I suppose that if man hadn't eaten of the tree, then he couldn't have been tempted to sin, because he wouldn't have known if something was good or bad except if God told him. The Bible does say that satan is the father of lies.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:55 pm
by Jac3510
Who tempted Satan to sin?
Answer: no one. He tempted himself. In the same way, man tempts himself. In the passage JB quoted, you see that man is tempted by his desires. Satan may accelerate or accentuate that process, but it does not originate in him.
To answer your specific question, I don't know what would have happened if Satan had not fallen, but I don't suspect things would have been too much different . . .
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:14 pm
by Jay_7
Jac3510 wrote:Who tempted Satan to sin?
Answer: no one. He tempted himself. In the same way, man tempts himself. In the passage JB quoted, you see that man is tempted by his desires. Satan may accelerate or accentuate that process, but it does not originate in him.
To answer your specific question, I don't know what would have happened if Satan had not fallen, but I don't suspect things would have been too much different . . .
Ok then. Another thing, howcome angels got too be created in heaven and have choice to sin there? Howcome humans have to go threw earth? Why cant we be like the angels?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:51 am
by Brigham
Im glad 2 be on earth. Seeing as angels have
seen" God, when they turn on him there no turning back, its byebye after one mistake. we however make countless mistakes but are forgiven in through Jesus.
God bless.
-Brigham
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:56 pm
by Jac3510
Brigham wrote:Im glad 2 be on earth. Seeing as angels have
seen" God, when they turn on him there no turning back, its byebye after one mistake. we however make countless mistakes but are forgiven in through Jesus.
God bless.
-Brigham
QFT
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:29 am
by Jay_7
QFT?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:57 am
by Judah
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