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Good Morning Angels (Serious Question)

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:02 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
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I have a few books I can look through to bash a Jesus Seminar professor who's lecture I sat in on today, but until then, I could use some expert help.

There is supposed to be a discrepancy between having a tax census under Herod. Also, there's some ruler's name starting with a Q-if any name comes to mind, the “problem” is the JS professor said this guy ruled much later, and no other alternative explanations worked-and as I remember names are (and have been) re-used, I was thinking it's that…so anyone could pull a source. Second, the prof said it HAD to be Herod the Great (before Judae became province), instead of one of his sons…so blasting that too. Also, he claimed that the Crucifixion was considered a shameful embarrassment, so help on that too. And finally, he poisoned the well and claimed Peter and Paul being killed in Rome are just legend

Re: Good Morning Angels

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:35 pm
by IRQ Conflict
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:he claimed that the Crucifixion was considered a shameful embarrassment


Was he meaning that the crucifixion was an embarrassment? Or to be crucified was an embarrassment?

I know the bible states that anyone hung on a tree (crucified) was cursed.

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:35 pm
by Brigham
u might want to put it under a different title.

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:28 am
by Fortigurn
Try here.

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:50 am
by AttentionKMartShoppers
I'm so glad we shop at the same place...lol-found that one already actually, will use too

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:30 am
by AttentionKMartShoppers
OH another thing, the panzy called Peter and Paul being killed in Rome a "legend."-what should be my attack path on that too?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:39 am
by Jac3510
KMart:

Here's an OLD thread that may help you out there. Pay special attention to ttoews arguments. I wonder how he's doing these days . . .

http://discussions.godandscience.org/ol ... 47&start=0

Re: Good Morning Angels (Serious Question)

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:24 am
by Mastermind
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Also, he claimed that the Crucifixion was considered a shameful embarrassment, so help on that too.
Why do you need help on that? It's true and it leaves atheists in a pickle because they have to explain how somebody who brought so much shame to his followers took over the Roman Empire. :wink:

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:32 am
by AttentionKMartShoppers
I wish to destroy all of his assertions.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:52 pm
by Mastermind
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:I wish to destroy all of his assertions.
Why? That assertion is useful to us. Read through this to find out why:

http://www.tektonics.org/lp/nowayjose.html

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:56 pm
by Jbuza
What was his evidence for any of this. IT is exccedingly difficult to refute empty claims.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:07 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
That's why I was wondering what who knew on what.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:07 pm
by Jbuza
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:That's why I was wondering what who knew on what.

OH. Well the Bible is a more primary source than this yahoo. The Jewws have been meticulous in keeping hteir history, and I am sure that you can trust what the Bible says.

The name you were looking for that begins with Q is Quirinius (sp) he was a governor in Syria when Jesus was Born.