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Saved vs Unsaved Relationship

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:47 am
by Utah Extreme
Brothers and Sisters in Christ,


Is it possible to have a relationship with an unsaved person? My wife does not understand my personal relationship with Jesus. She is not of the spirit so does not understand. I tell her that and thinks I am a freak. she thinks I am a freaking out with me reading my bible all the time. I try to say some versus out of the bible and she says I am preaching.

I asked her if she thought she was going to heaven and stated that it was up to God to decide. She also stated that she believed that if she is a good person she will get into heaven...needless to say I felt saddened with those answers. I am praying for understanding and continue to show my love and patience with her, with that, lately she has been argumentative and thinks I am going the deep end. She is catholic and thinks that going to church is where we should learn about God...I think I am in trouble here.


I would love advice and bible passages that talk about relationships.

Many thanks to you all and God Bless You!


-Utah Extreme
Saved by Grace. Jesus is my Saviour.

Re: Saved vs Unsaved Relationship

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:31 pm
by IRQ Conflict
Utah Extreme wrote:Is it possible to have a relationship with an unsaved person?
A relationship, yes. But the quality of relationship is the question. It is wise to stay in the company of like minded Christians and not forsake going to church.

Gal 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

Remember Brother, Faith comes by hearing and by hearing the Word of God.

Pray that the Spirit of our Lord would open her eyes and soften her heart for the things of God in Truth. Live your life as Jesus commanded and be a blessed light unto your beloved! She will come around! Amen!
I try to say some versus out of the bible and she says I am preaching.
And some will, with knashing teeth command "Don't you preach to me!" Happens ALL the time.
I asked her if she thought she was going to heaven and stated that it was up to God to decide. She also stated that she believed that if she is a good person she will get into heaven...
Common deception with "Good People" Christ so much as said 'no one comes to the Father but by Me.' You can hear the mystry religion teaching in that statement. "All roads lead to God' Yeah! right! :roll:

needless to say I felt saddened with those answers.
Eze 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:

That verse smacks of catholasism and other" Mystery Religions"
I am praying for understanding and continue to show my love and patience with her, with that, lately she has been argumentative and thinks I am going the deep end.
Hehe! Praise God Almighty Forever! Your obviiously doing something right. Although, be carefull not to browbeat her or nag, be as Jesus. Kind, meek, forgiving and patient, sometimes VERY patient. Always give thanks to God and pray in the spirit to yourself, keep in the Word and go to church.

She is catholic and thinks that going to church is where we should learn about God...
Take the time to learn what the catholic faith is and isn't. The main thing is they don't believe the Word is truth apart from it being deciphered by Rome (hear man). A great portion of thier websites for instance they spend 'trying' to defend thier beliefs as many 'true' Christians within and without the 'church' are starting to see the lies that catholasism brings.
"Do you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?" they ask. "Have you been saved?" This is unmodified Christian individualism, which holds that the individual is saved, without ever considering his relationship to a church, a congregation, or anyone else. It is a one-to-one relationship, with no community, no sacraments, just the individual Christian and his Lord. And the Christian knows when he has been saved, down to the hour and minute of his salvation, because his salvation came when he "accepted" Christ. It came like a flash.
link Needless to say, even thier views of fundamentalism is quite skewed. And they say that having a personal relationship with God is not the way to Salvation. Thier heresies seem to go on forever.

In fact this verse sums up what the fundamentalist believes It is to strengthen our faith and to edify and comfort it is to unite with the goals of Christ (not the pope) in mind!

Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
I think I am in trouble here.
1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Luk 22:27 For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth.

The catholic faith is a LIE my friend! They teach man over God. Pray against that spirit of wickedness.

God Bless and Keep you and yours forever! Amen!

Re: Saved vs Unsaved Relationship

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:51 pm
by Byblos
Well, there you go Utah. I guess this ^^ says it all now doesn't it? You weigh and decide.

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:14 pm
by Jbuza
1 Corinthians 7:10 To the married I give this command — not I, but the Lord — a wife should not divorce a husband 7:11 (but if she does, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband), and a husband should not divorce his wife. 7:12 To the rest I say — I, not the Lord — if a brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is happy to live with him, he should not divorce her. 7:13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is happy to live with her, she should not divorce him. 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified because of the wife, and the unbelieving wife because of her husband. Otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. 7:15 But if the unbeliever wants a divorce, let it take place. In these circumstances the brother or sister is not bound. God has called you in peace. 7:16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will bring your husband to salvation? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will bring your wife to salvation?



1 Peter 3:1 In the same way[See the example of Jesus in chapter 2], wives, be subject to your own husbands. Then, even if some are disobedient to the word, they will be won over without a word by the way you live, 3:2 when they see your pure and reverent conduct.3 3:3 Let your beauty not be external — the braiding of hair and wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes — 3:4 but the inner person of the heart, the lasting beauty of a gentle and tranquil spirit, which is precious in God's sight. 3:5 For in the same way the holy women who hoped in God long ago adorned themselves by being subject to their husbands, 3:6 like Sarah who obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. You become her children when you do what is good and have no fear in doing so. 3:7 Husbands, in the same way, treat your wives with consideration as the weaker partners and show them honor as fellow heirs of the grace of life. In this way nothing will hinder your prayers.

3:8 Finally, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, affectionate, compassionate, and humble. 3:9 Do not return evil for evil or insult for insult, but instead bless others because you were called to inherit a blessing. 3:10 For the one who wants to love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from uttering deceit. 3:11 And he must turn away from evil and do good; He must seek peace and pursue it. 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous and his ears are open to their prayer. But the Lord's face is against those who do evil.

A link for Men like you
http://www.ourchurch.com/view/?pageID=162873

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:48 am
by Utah Extreme
IRQ Conflict,Byblos and Jbuza,


Thanks for the response. Thanks for the bible passages and links.
I am more confident of what to do now, which is to pray and be steadfast in Jesus Christ. I trust in Him and I know it will work out just fine :)


Thank you and God Bless you!




-Utah Extreme
Saved by Grace. Jesus is my Saviour