BGoodForGoodSake wrote:Actually reading the bible when I was younger I actually suspected that Jesus did ask Judas to betray him.
So, that would make Gods Word a lie and mans word, in this case the so-called "Gospel" of Judas the truth?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
I never understood why some were anti-semetic when it was the death of Christ which gives us salvation and therefore his death was good. And if this is so then why be angry at those who brought about his demise? It is God's plan after all is it not?
Mar 14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
It was this line of thinking which led me to the idea that Judas was asked to betray Jesus. Jesus being the son of man would know that he had to die for the sins of mankind. In the old testament Abraham was asked by the lord God to sacrifice his only Son Issac. This is where I saw a parallel and helped me to make sence of Jesus' own death.
One deals with faith and obediance. The other deals with betrayal and in no way says Jesus asked Judas to betray Him.
Luk 22:48 But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?
Jesus was a sacrifice and therefore had to be offered up to the lord God by those who loved him. The Romans did not sacrifice Jesus, the twelve disciples did along with Judas Iscariot.
It was the chief preists, scribes and pharasies (jewish leaders).
Luk 23:20 Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake again to them.
Luk 23:21 But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him.
Luk 23:22 And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he done? I have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him, and let him go.
Luk 23:23 And they were instant with loud voices, requiring that he might be crucified. And the voices of them and of the chief priests prevailed.
Act 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
Act 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
Act 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
The book of Judas may be heretical, but the idea that Judas was an evil person also seems equally heretical to me.
2Co 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Where is the second witness to this letter?