New Evidence for the Turin Shroud
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New Evidence for the Turin Shroud
Did anyone see the Channel 4 program "The Shroud of Christ" on Easter Sunday - Absolutely fascinating. Well it had long been excepted that it was a fake but they have realised that the piece of the cloth that they carbon dated was highly contaminated during the medival times do to the way it was handled. Therefore given a date of around 1260AD. However new ultraviolet evidence has highlighted this contamination. Also in a monastry in Spain they have discovered what is the Head Shroud mentioned in John's Gospel with blood that matches the blood on the shroud. This head shroud has been kept in this monastry since at least 600-700 AD. Also the water marks on the shroud match what will happen if the shroud was folded the way it was back 2000 years ago and placed in special jars (similar to the ones that the dead sea scrolls were found in) and they got damp at the bottom.
Also more surprising is the stitching of the shroud is unique only to that period and at that place - Israel 2000 years ago.
There was more evidence on this program as well - but absolutely amazing. Very exciting stuff - and like the program said - all cards are back on the table and on the shroud we could well be looking at the face of God.
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Also more surprising is the stitching of the shroud is unique only to that period and at that place - Israel 2000 years ago.
There was more evidence on this program as well - but absolutely amazing. Very exciting stuff - and like the program said - all cards are back on the table and on the shroud we could well be looking at the face of God.
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Although I find the shroud interesting, I also find it irrelevant. No matter what tests are done, or what the findings are, nothing can ever be proven about it in relation to Christ and nothing changes if they say it is of Christ or not. To me it's mildly interesting, but that is all.
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Re: shroud
Fair enough - but what is also interesting about it is that they believe the image on the shroud was formed by bacteria on the face of the crucified man. This in itself is not that interesting - but what is is that the shroud then needed to be exposed to air after at least 12 hours min on the body. Jesus was in his tomb 36 hours and then the cloth was removed - allowing the image to form.ray wrote:Although I find the shroud interesting, I also find it irrelevant. No matter what tests are done, or what the findings are, nothing can ever be proven about it in relation to Christ and nothing changes if they say it is of Christ or not. To me it's mildly interesting, but that is all.
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I think this is a very relevant discover - if proven conclusively it is more evidence outside the bible that Jesus existed and went through horrendous torture and plus more evidence for his resurrection.
Very exciting I think
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Hey Silvertusk, Shroudie is probably one of the guys who has the most expertise on the topic, here is his site:
http://www.shroudstory.com/
http://www.shroudstory.com/
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"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. [25] And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else."
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Very interesting read. Thanks August.August wrote:Hey Silvertusk, Shroudie is probably one of the guys who has the most expertise on the topic, here is his site:
http://www.shroudstory.com/
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I think the shroud is interesting as an artifact.August wrote:Hey Silvertusk, Shroudie is probably one of the guys who has the most expertise on the topic, here is his site:
http://www.shroudstory.com/
I don't think it offers much in the way of tangible proof of anything.
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i also find it fascinating, but it is totally incorrect. the Shroud has Chris' full body portrayed. however, the hebrew people wraped up bodies, such as Lasarus, not in one, but two peaces. the head was wrapped up with a totally separate cloth. that is the only thing that people need to know to understand that it is not the true cloth he was wrapped up in. again, it is rather fascinating, but it is not what people make it out to be. besides, God would not put something like that in the hands of man, we would just start worshipping it as an idol.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not the Roman Soldiers who carried out the crucifiction?ryo dokomi wrote:i also find it fascinating, but it is totally incorrect. the Shroud has Chris' full body portrayed. however, the hebrew people wraped up bodies, such as Lasarus, not in one, but two peaces. the head was wrapped up with a totally separate cloth. that is the only thing that people need to know to understand that it is not the true cloth he was wrapped up in. again, it is rather fascinating, but it is not what people make it out to be. besides, God would not put something like that in the hands of man, we would just start worshipping it as an idol.
Who was it that wrapped Jesus and placed him in the tomb?
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