Evidence for God from Science

Did anyone see the Channel 4 program "The Shroud of Christ" on Easter Sunday - Absolutely fascinating. Well it had long been excepted that it was a fake but they have realised that the piece of the cloth that they carbon dated was highly contaminated during the medival times do to the way it was handled. Therefore given a date of around 1260AD. However new ultraviolet evidence has highlighted this contamination. Also in a monastry in Spain they have discovered what is the Head Shroud mentioned in John's Gospel with blood that matches the blood on the shroud. This head shroud has been kept in this monastry since at least 600-700 AD. Also the water marks on the shroud match what will happen if the shroud was folded the way it was back 2000 years ago and placed in special jars (similar to the ones that the dead sea scrolls were found in) and they got damp at the bottom.

Also more surprising is the stitching of the shroud is unique only to that period and at that place - Israel 2000 years ago.

There was more evidence on this program as well - but absolutely amazing. Very exciting stuff - and like the program said - all cards are back on the table and on the shroud we could well be looking at the face of God.

God Bless

Silvertusk

Although I find the shroud interesting, I also find it irrelevant. No matter what tests are done, or what the findings are, nothing can ever be proven about it in relation to Christ and nothing changes if they say it is of Christ or not. To me it's mildly interesting, but that is all.

Ray

ray wrote:Although I find the shroud interesting, I also find it irrelevant. No matter what tests are done, or what the findings are, nothing can ever be proven about it in relation to Christ and nothing changes if they say it is of Christ or not. To me it's mildly interesting, but that is all.

Ray

Fair enough - but what is also interesting about it is that they believe the image on the shroud was formed by bacteria on the face of the crucified man. This in itself is not that interesting - but what is is that the shroud then needed to be exposed to air after at least 12 hours min on the body. Jesus was in his tomb 36 hours and then the cloth was removed - allowing the image to form.

I think this is a very relevant discover - if proven conclusively it is more evidence outside the bible that Jesus existed and went through horrendous torture and plus more evidence for his resurrection.

Very exciting I think

God Bless

Silvertusk

Hey Silvertusk, Shroudie is probably one of the guys who has the most expertise on the topic, here is his site:

http://www.shroudstory.com/

August wrote:Hey Silvertusk, Shroudie is probably one of the guys who has the most expertise on the topic, here is his site:

http://www.shroudstory.com/

Very interesting read. Thanks August.

August wrote:Hey Silvertusk, Shroudie is probably one of the guys who has the most expertise on the topic, here is his site:

http://www.shroudstory.com/

I think the shroud is interesting as an artifact.

I don't think it offers much in the way of tangible proof of anything.

i also find it fascinating, but it is totally incorrect. the Shroud has Chris' full body portrayed. however, the hebrew people wraped up bodies, such as Lasarus, not in one, but two peaces. the head was wrapped up with a totally separate cloth. that is the only thing that people need to know to understand that it is not the true cloth he was wrapped up in. again, it is rather fascinating, but it is not what people make it out to be. besides, God would not put something like that in the hands of man, we would just start worshipping it as an idol.

ryo dokomi wrote:i also find it fascinating, but it is totally incorrect. the Shroud has Chris' full body portrayed. however, the hebrew people wraped up bodies, such as Lasarus, not in one, but two peaces. the head was wrapped up with a totally separate cloth. that is the only thing that people need to know to understand that it is not the true cloth he was wrapped up in. again, it is rather fascinating, but it is not what people make it out to be. besides, God would not put something like that in the hands of man, we would just start worshipping it as an idol.

Correct me if I am wrong, but was it not the Roman Soldiers who carried out the crucifiction?

Who was it that wrapped Jesus and placed him in the tomb?

The romans did indeed carry out the execution but it was Joseph and the Marys that buried him. There was indeed seperate cloths - one for the head and one for the body as described in John. However, like I said before they already have the head shroud that matches with the turin shroud.

Fascinating then indeed.

At the very least then, someone that died around when christ died was unwrapped.

(If only the people of the time had known of the contriversy that would be involved 2000 years later. Perhaps 2000 years from now the world will claim that Darwin never existed )