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Mastermind · Post by **Mastermind** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:03 pm

Does the Bible state if it's wrong or not? I would assume it is, but a friend of mine was asking, and I don't have a straight answer to give her.

Shirtless · Post by **Shirtless** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:01 pm

Oral sex is never mentioned specifically...I kind of wondered how that one got started. It's probably just a great excuse for girls that don't want do it!

"No honey, not tonight; it's against my religion."

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:35 pm

outside of marriage its obviously wrong and its done mainly among those who aren't married. In marriage I don't see anything wrong with it.

Kurieuo · Post by **Kurieuo** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:09 pm

I agree with vvart. Additionally, rather than just see it as black and white, I think one needs to ask why so many young people feel the need to become so intimate with others. Is it just an uncontrollable sexual drive in a sexually conditioned society? Or could there be more to it on an emotional level?

Kurieuo.

Shirtless · Post by **Shirtless** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:36 pm

Paul's warnings against prostitution in my opinion is good advise. I'd rather be with someone who cares about me. But as far as young guys being so *ahem* restless, it's just a biological urge (with or without emotion).

I don't believe sex out of marriage is bad. I just don't think there's any biblical basis for it.

This is very important: think of sex as food; like a bowl of strawberries. Too much is bad, too little is bad, but the right amount is just what the body needs! Man can not live off bread alone, but he needs at least that!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:53 am

Although some might find the suggestion scandalous or irreverent, I have read that some scholars believe Song of Songs 2:3 and 4:16 refer to oral sex. I honestly cannot say with any certainty that this so, but I would maintain that this book of the Bible does show that sex is more than copulation. In the Song of Songs, it is obvious these young lovers admire and take pleasure from all aspects of each others' bodies (the neck, hair, breasts, eyes, mouth, etc.)

I agree with vvart. Outside of marriage, no. Inside of marriage, I see nothing wrong with it. (Unless, of course, one partner finds it disagreeable, in which case their feelings should be respected.)

ochotseat · Post by **ochotseat** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:12 am

Mastermind wrote:Does the Bible state if it's wrong or not? I would assume it is, but a friend of mine was asking, and I don't have a straight answer to give her.

I don't think it does, but then again, sodomy's defined as either anal or oral sex. I think the Bible is against anal sex though.

AttentionKMartShoppers · Mon May 02, 2005 9:01 pm

I don't believe sex out of marriage is bad. I just don't think there's any biblical basis for it.

I recall reading a verse that basically said that if you do it out of marriage, the next thing on your list will be MARRIAGE with that girl.

ochotseat · Post by **ochotseat** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:43 pm

AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:
I don't believe sex out of marriage is bad. I just don't think there's any biblical basis for it.
I recall reading a verse that basically said that if you do it out of marriage, the next thing on your list will be MARRIAGE with that girl.

The Bible (and Torah) is very correct in stating that sex before marriage is wrong. Studies have shown that fornication leads to higher chances of stds, cheating, divorce, lack of respect for intimacy, and teenage pregnancy.

Kurieuo · Post by **Kurieuo** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:49 pm

ochotseat wrote:The Bible (and Torah) is very correct in stating that sex before marriage is wrong. Studies have shown that fornication leads to higher chances of stds, cheating, divorce, lack of respect for intimacy, and teenage pregnancy.

I believe it states prostituting yourself is wrong, although I've never come across a passage that clearly states sex outside of "marriage" (i.e., the official ceremony and document) is wrong. Rather it seems God sees a couple as united when they have sex, even if they're "technically" not married.

Kurieuo.

ochotseat · Post by **ochotseat** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:57 pm

Kurieuo wrote:
ochotseat wrote:The Bible (and Torah) is very correct in stating that sex before marriage is wrong. Studies have shown that fornication leads to higher chances of stds, cheating, divorce, lack of respect for intimacy, and teenage pregnancy.
I believe it states prostituting yourself is wrong, although I've never come across a passage that clearly states sex outside of "marriage" (i.e., the official ceremony and document) is wrong. Rather it seems God sees a couple as united when they have sex, even if they're "technically" not married.

Kurieuo.

No, I think it does in the Old and New Testament (husband and wife becoming one body). Are you saying all the churches and ministers are wrong for promoting marital sex and lashing out against premarital relations?

Kurieuo · Post by **Kurieuo** » Tue May 03, 2005 9:09 pm

ochotseat wrote:No, I think it does in the Old and New Testament (husband and wife becoming one body). Are you saying all the churches and ministers are wrong for promoting marital sex and lashing out against premarital relations?

Well what is marriage if not ultimately the uniting between woman and man? The issue is not whether over marital sex being wrong, the issue is rather what really constitutes "marital" in God's eyes. I also wouldn't say all churches and ministers would agree on this issue.

Kurieuo.

ochotseat · Post by **ochotseat** » Tue May 03, 2005 10:40 pm

Kurieuo wrote:
ochotseat wrote:No, I think it does in the Old and New Testament (husband and wife becoming one body). Are you saying all the churches and ministers are wrong for promoting marital sex and lashing out against premarital relations?
Well what is marriage if not ultimately the uniting between woman and man? The issue is not whether over marital sex being wrong, the issue is rather what really constitutes "marital" in God's eyes. I also wouldn't say all churches and ministers would agree on this issue.

Kurieuo.

Most do agree, and marriage is between a man and a woman in a tabernacle.

Kurieuo · Post by **Kurieuo** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:51 pm

Adam and Eve must have committed fornication then.

Kurieuo.

Kurieuo · Post by **Kurieuo** » Wed May 04, 2005 12:01 am

1 Cor 6:15-17
Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh." But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Eph 5:31
"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."

Corinthians talks of one uniting themselves with a prostitute. "Uniting" is obviously a reference to uniting sexually with a prostitute. After uniting sexually, the two become one in bodyour created design being fulfilled. For when God took out a portion of Adam's side to create Eve, Adam was less whole than what he was originally. And when Eve was given that portion, man then became dependant on woman in order to be completed.

This brings up a question, is not marriage the union of a husband with his wife? This union, according to God's Word, "generally" (but not necessarily) happens when a man is united sexually to a woman. Therefore the act of sex is the seal of marriage before God despite anything else. Once a couple have sex, they are in His eyes one unit yoked together.

Kurieuo.

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