Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:You are mistaken again, Puritan lad,
the Jewish people have not been divested of the Abrahamic Covenant. The «Church» has not inherited this covenant.
Yes they have. I posted three Scriptures that tell us that directly. Apparently you either didn't bother to read them, or just didn't like them. So I'll post the whole Scripture for you to see.
Acts 3:25
"You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.'"
The Abrahamic Covenant was never meant for one race of people (Ot or NT). Look at how Abraham's Seed would be blessed in the very next verse.
Acts 3:26
"To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities."
Who is the speaking of FL? Certainly not anyone who practices the false religion of Judaism.
Romans 4:13-17
"For the promise that he would be the heir of the world was not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect, because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression. Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all (as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did;" (
Hint: Paul is writing to Romans, not Jews).
Finally, the Scripture that puts the Abrahamic Covenant issue to rest.
Galatians 3:7-16
"Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.” Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man's covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,”who is Christ."
Abraham has ONLY one seed, those who are of the faith, for "only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham". The rest are under a curse, and Abraham is NOT their father, but rather the Devil (John 8:44).
Gentile believers have been grafted on to the root. May I suggest you read Romans 11:11-32 and pray for understanding.
There is only one root, and that is the church, consisting mostly of Jews inthe OT (but not exclusively, as I already pointed out), but includes Gentiles in the NT.) As a postmillennialist, I believe that their will be a time when Jews will turn to the faith (Romans 11:25-26), but only by forsaking their demonic religion and returning to the faith of Abraham, that of Jesus Christ and His gospel (Gal. 3:8).
I could go on but I won't. There is a mild tone of anti-semitism in your post. I'm not attacking you for that. I think anti-semitism is a symptom of the aberrant theology that replaces some other entity for Israel. In your case, the «some other entity» seems to be the church; for others it can be the Aryan people, or British Israelism, for instance.
Nice try. The Charge of Anti-Semitism put toward Postmills is commonplace among intellectually shallow Dispensationalists, who can't deal with the Word. Unless we agree with you that God is a racist who prefers one race above another, we are anti-semites.
We are not anti-semites. We do not hate Jews. We simply recognize Judaism for what it is, a false demonic cult.
Are you "anti-Mormon"? "Anti-Watchtower"? Do you hate these people?
I believe that Dispies are "Anti-Semitic", since that look forward to escaping planet earth while 1/3 of the Jewish population gets massacred. Is that not what you look farward to? Is that you "blessed hope"?
Now try again without the false accusations...
When God says Israel, He means Israel:
What is Israel, FL? Define it for me...
God promised Abraham that he would make of him a “great nation” (Genesis 12:2), and that “in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed” (Genesis 22:18). This nation was to be a “holy nation” (Exodus 19:6).
What does it mean to be a Holy Nation? Is a nation holy simply because the DNA of it's citizens matches Abraham's (which, by the way, would eliminate most of the people living in modern day Israel)? Does the term “holy nation” fit some godless country that exists in the Middle East founded by the United Nations in 1948? Hardly. God is not a racist. He never saved anyone based in his or her genealogy, in either the Old or New Testament. If that were the case, then Esau (whom God hated — Malachi 1:3, Romans 9:13) and Ishmael would have a claim on God's Covenant Blessings. So would King Saul, Judas Iscariot, and the modern day Palestinians. Likewise, Ruth (a Moabite), Rahab (a Canaanite), and Urriah (the Hittite), (two of which were Christ's ancestors) would never have experienced sanctification. Physical circumcision made one a part of God's visible church, but in the light of eternity, profits nothing (Galatians 5:6).
A holy nation is set apart by God based on obedience to His Covenant. In the Old Testament, a Hebrew who was disobedient was to be “cut off from the congregation of Israel” (Exodus 12:19). Does this mean that God changed the person's genetic code so that he was no longer a Hebrew? Of course not. It means that he was no longer part of the “holy nation”, God's visible church here on earth. The same is true in the New Testament (ex. 1 Cor. 5:1-12). Sadly, the judicial powers of the modern church are almost non-existent.
In the same Exodus passage, God tells Moses “And when a stranger dwells with you and wants to keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as a native of the land. For no uncircumcised person shall eat it. One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you." (Exodus 12:48-49). Again, God does not make this person's DNA match that of Abraham, but instead sets him apart “as a native of the land” in His holy nation. Thus, even in the Old Testament, God never considered anyone a “Jew” based on race alone. Both Jew and Gentiles were to have “one law”.
This is even more obvious the New Testament. The Pharisees took pride in their linage, but were not members of God's “holy nation”. John the Baptist gave them this warning.
“But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, and do not think to say to yourselves, "We have Abraham as our father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.” (Matthew 3:7-10).
The Judaists even bragged to Jesus about their heritage, proclaiming “Abraham is our father.” (John 8:39). But Jesus was very clear with His response. Contrary to popular dispensational belief, Judaism is not “Old Testament religion”, but a demon-inspired, Talmudic cult. When the Pharisees rejected Christ, they rejected Moses (John 5:46). The god of Judaism is the Devil (John 8:44). Only Born Again believers in Jesus Christ are considered true Jews. Others are not true Jews, but of the synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9). As Christ rejecters, they are no longer “God's Chosen People”. Jesus told them,"… the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.” (Matthew 21:43). This nation is His “holy nation”, the Church of Jesus Christ, the new “Israel of God”, and the Galatian church was so called (Galatians 6:16).
Paul writes “…for they are not all Israel who are of Israel” (Romans 9:6), “But he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and whose circumcision is that of the heart…” (Romans 2:29). “And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:29). In Christ, all ethnic, cultural, economic and generational walls have been removed. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28). If Jesus Christ removed these barriers, who are we to try and build them back up?
There is more. While the modern dispensational church keeps it's eyes glued to the Middle East, awaiting some sort of Theological Extravaganza, Paul clarified that the Abrahamic Covenant (Genesis 22:18) is being fulfilled through the church, (and the Galatian Gentile church at that). “And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed.” (Galatians 3:8 - So much for the idea that the church age was invisible to the Old Testament prophets.) As Christians, we are members of the New, Heavenly Jerusalem which is the one and only bride of Christ, the mother of us all (Galatians 4:26, Hebrews 12:22).
I will pray that you read God's Word with the heart of a child, bringing nothing to it for you have nothing to give. Ask Him and He will reveal Himself to you.
I pray that you will read it with some maturity, putting away the milk of Christian TV theology and start in on some meat.
God Bless,
PL
