Evidence for God from Science

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What do you guys think?

Stephen Hawking wonders if Humanity can survive another 100 years.

I think his premises are wrong:

"In a world that is in chaos politically, socially and environmentally..."

There is no proof for that, I think that it is rather the opposite. We are much more aware of the challenges that each of those areas bring, and are taking many steps to counteract possible negative effects.

This question is kind of like asking: "When did you stop beating your wife?". There can only be a negative answer if you accept his premises.

Hawking is a perplexing fellow at times.

20 years ago he was almost deifying man's ability to solve the universal questions of physics by reducing them to a singularity and a "universal theory of everything."

Lately he seems to have given into cynicism and despair on some levels.

His most recent book "A Briefer History of Time" has some interesting elements where he almost appears to be moving into some pantheistic-type musings where he comtemplates predestination but sees determinism in terms of the universe itself rather than a personal god. He also addresses metaphysics more than has been his want in the past.

He's a remarkable person, but has faced some very difficult challenges in his life to say the least. I think he's wrestling now with issues that are more philosophical and theological than scientific.

I think when Hawkings said that universe has no beginning or end, it isn't true. Scripturally speaking God created the universe he created "time" as well so "time" begins with the physical universe; in other words, universe has its beginning and they live in parallel with each other.

What happened before the birth of universe becomes a philosophical question because "before the birth of universe" is not a sensible question any longer, when time begins only on birth of universe.

Simply speaking if we are bound to answer the question "what happened before the universe", the happenings before the universe could be the "beginning of the future of the universe" , one of the possible meaning literally, beyond all sketches of our reasonings indeed. It is, however, sufficient to refute what Hawkings said, I think.

However, his statement that how can human being survive another 100 years if everything is in chao politically, socially and environmentally.. I agree to it; it implies an Apocalypse is probable one day that is scripturally correct; Jesus foretold of the "end of the world". Hawkings' agree with Jesus's on this aspect.

Oriental wrote:I think when Hawkings said that universe has no beginning or end, it isn't true. Scripturally speaking God created the universe he created "time" as well so "time" begins with the physical universe; in other words, universe has its beginning and they live in parallel with each other.

What happened before the birth of universe becomes a philosophical question because "before the birth of universe" is not a sensible question any longer, when time begins only on birth of universe.

Simply speaking if we are bound to answer the question "what happened before the universe", the happenings before the universe could be the "beginning of the future of the universe" , one of the possible meaning literally, beyond all sketches of our reasonings indeed. It is, however, sufficient to refute what Hawkings said, I think.

However, his statement that how can human being survive another 100 years if everything is in chao politically, socially and environmentally.. I agree to it; it implies an Apocalypse is probable one day that is scripturally correct; Jesus foretold of the "end of the world". Hawkings' agree with Jesus's on this aspect.

Hawkings seems to be coming to similar conclusions as taught in the Bible then, but for different reasons then.

Isn't it ironic that arguably the smartest man alive with the greatest knowlege of the physical world, sees enough in that world to raise all these questions? Apparantly the first two chapters of Romans where it speaks of God revealing enough in creation to condemn men is true. Hawkings needs to move beyond just what can be known or inferred from the physical world and know God as he is revealed in the Bible before he will have any solid basis for hope in this world and in his life.

That's true for all of us.

It is true. Hawkings should look at things beyond what is being in this world and know what God reveals in Bible.

Hawkings is quite erroneous in saying that universe has no beginning or end. I think the right one should be:

God has no beginning nor end (because He is beyond all measure)
Universe has beginning and end (because universe is created by God)

I think Hawkings has mistaken universe as God Himself.


Oriental.

Oriental wrote:It is true. Hawkings should look things beyond what is being in this world and know what God reveals in Bible.

Hawkings is quite erroneous in saying that universe has no beginning or end. I think the right one should be:

God has no beginning nor end (because He is beyond all measure)
Universe has beginning and end (because universe is created by God)

I think Hawkings has mistaken universe as God Himself.


Oriental.

I think you're on to something there.