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Revelation 3:5

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:08 pm
by YLTYLT
Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.


What does this mean to blot out his name from the book of life.

I see that it can mean any of these:

1. The person was once save but lost it. (NOT!!!)
2. Blotting out does not mean loss of salvation but loss of rewards. (possibly but, I do not think so)
3. If blotting out means not saved, then all names were written there to begin with, hence no limit on the atonement. If the elect were predetermined from the beginning, why would names be blotted out, only the saved would be written in the Book of life.

Is there some other possible meaning that I am not seeing that other could help me with?


Thanks,
In Christ

Re: Revelation 3:5

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:18 pm
by FFC
YLTYLT wrote:Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.


What does this mean to blot out his name from the book of life.

I see that it can mean any of these:

1. The person was once save but lost it. (NOT!!!)
2. Blotting out does not mean loss of salvation but loss of rewards. (possibly but, I do not think so)
3. If blotting out means not saved, then all names were written there to begin with, hence no limit on the atonement. If the elect were predetermined from the beginning, why would names be blotted out, only the saved would be written in the Book of life.

Is there some other possible meaning that I am not seeing that other could help me with?


Thanks,
In Christ
All names were in there from the beginning but are blotted out when God see that they will never believe? Just a guess.

Re: Revelation 3:5

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 pm
by Byblos
FFC wrote:
YLTYLT wrote:Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.


What does this mean to blot out his name from the book of life.

I see that it can mean any of these:

1. The person was once save but lost it. (NOT!!!)
2. Blotting out does not mean loss of salvation but loss of rewards. (possibly but, I do not think so)
3. If blotting out means not saved, then all names were written there to begin with, hence no limit on the atonement. If the elect were predetermined from the beginning, why would names be blotted out, only the saved would be written in the Book of life.

Is there some other possible meaning that I am not seeing that other could help me with?


Thanks,
In Christ
All names were in there from the beginning but are blotted out when God see that they will never believe? Just a guess.
Yeah, sometimes we tend to forget God's omniscience. If he already knows what will happen then I guess I can see how some will see it as predestination. Good answer bro.