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The thousand year reign
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:12 pm
by FFC
John wrote:Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
Is this a literal earthly thousand year reign of Christ or spiritual symbolism?
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:30 pm
by puritan lad
Premillennialists believe so.
Amillennialists and Postmillennialist (like myself) do not.
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:59 pm
by FFC
puritan lad wrote:Premillennialists believe so.
Amillennialists and Postmillennialist (like myself) do not.
What exactly do you believe the thousand year reign is?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:02 am
by puritan lad
FFC,
Check out this article by postmillennialist Kenneth Gentry.
https://host186.ipowerweb.com/~kenneth1/millennium.htm
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:19 pm
by KrisW
Well, THIS might bring some more polemecists out of the woodwork, but......
I feel Post-Millenialism is a danger to the Church. The belief that Believers have to do 'good works' to build a Millenial Kingdom BEFORE Jesus will return is anathema to the concept of "Salvation by Grace". And, quite frankly, it echoes some of the concepts in Shite Muslim eschatology.
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:08 am
by oscarsiziba
Christ comes and takes His people to heaven and those that did not believe in Him are dead as this happens.The holy ones open and review the records of the world for a thousand years and then descend with the New Jerusalem.While they hold the judgment Satan is in total darkness here on earth and wanders about while carcasses of those that have not been obedient and faithful to God lie in the whole earth.At the end of the 1000 yrs the wicked are raised and the devil fools them that they go and capture new Jerusalem as it descends and then fire and brimstone descend and consume them ,but not for eternity(Malachi 4 v1).Read Rev 19 and 20
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:35 am
by KrisW
Another thing that tends to annoy me is Christians who post llllloooonnnnggg doctrinal tracts from elsewhere with no personal commentary. as if they they were a papal bull.
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:38 am
by jenna
And who has been doing that?
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:11 pm
by KrisW
see post#5 in this thread.
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:22 pm
by Byblos
KrisW wrote:
see post#5 in this thread.
Kris, post #5 in this thread is none other that your very own (I'm sure you meant post #6?). Perhaps you need to stop shaking your head as it seems you're getting dizzy in the process
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Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:27 pm
by Canuckster1127
oscarsiziba,
Consider this a warning for the second instance of cutting and pasting from an outside web site without attribution.
Post a link within your own comments if you wish to reference something like this or make a reasonable size cut and paste with a link or reference.
Thanks,
Bart
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:29 pm
by KrisW
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:34 pm
by Byblos
Ah, that's better. You need to counter-balance the head-shaking with some eye-rolling.
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:38 pm
by KrisW
Nevertheless, I do find find disturbing parallels between PostMillenialism and the Shia belief in the 12 Iman.
Re: The thousand year reign
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:41 pm
by Byblos
KrisW wrote:Nevertheless, I do find find disturbing parallels between PostMillenialism and the Shia belief in the 12 Iman.
(I hope you do know I'm just messin' with you!
)
If you're in the mood for elaborating I would love to read your take on these parallels (perhaps in another thread so as to keep this one on topic?).