Evidence for God from Science

Ok, so I have been Christian since I was like ten or something, but now my belief has been shaken. I've been visiting this website a lot, and I think I need some Christians to come help me and beliefs. Thanks, and I love your website!

Why go there if you are Christian?

But I'm not any more ... I think ... I'm really confused.

Will you guys come and help me out?

The main arguments of atheism are all the same. If you browse around here you are bound to see them answered.

Why don't you list the main reasons you think you are no longer Christian?

If you don't mind my asking, what tore you away from Christianity? If you are not sure of your beliefs, then maybe you should explore all possible religions and see what does fit your beliefs the best.

Well, you see, I was reading all of these horrible Bible passages ...

Exodus 21:15, 2 Samuel 24:15, 2 Samuel 23: 8, 2 Kings 1:9-12, 2 Kings 9:10, 1 Chronicles 2:3, 1 Chronicles 19:18, 2 Chronicles 15:13, 2 Chronicles 28:6-8, Esther 2:22-23, Esther 9:16, Job 6:4, Job 16:9, Psalms 50:22, Proverbs 16:4, Proverbs 30:33, Jeremiah 4:4, Jeremiah 9:15-16, Revelation 1:7, Revelation 9:7-10

I Used 2 Be Christian =( wrote:Well, you see, I was reading all of these horrible Bible passages ...

Exodus 21:15, 2 Samuel 24:15, 2 Samuel 23: 8, 2 Kings 1:9-12, 2 Kings 9:10, 1 Chronicles 2:3, 1 Chronicles 19:18, 2 Chronicles 15:13, 2 Chronicles 28:6-8, Esther 2:22-23, Esther 9:16, Job 6:4, Job 16:9, Psalms 50:22, Proverbs 16:4, Proverbs 30:33, Jeremiah 4:4, Jeremiah 9:15-16, Revelation 1:7, Revelation 9:7-10

What about them?

They're really mean ... to everyone.

I mean, look at 2 Samuel 24:15.

So the LORD sent a pestilence upon Israel from the morning even to the time appointed: and there died of the people from Dan even to Beersheba seventy thousand men.

Why would God do that? It's so cruel.

I Used 2 Be Christian =( wrote:They're really mean ... to everyone.

I mean, look at 2 Samuel 24:15.

So the LORD sent a pestilence upon Israel from the morning even to the time appointed: and there died of the people from Dan even to Beersheba seventy thousand men.

Why would God do that? It's so cruel.

By what standard do you judge that to be cruel and mean?

Do you believe that it happened or not?

Nick_122 wrote:If you don't mind my asking, what tore you away from Christianity? If you are not sure of your beliefs, then maybe you should explore all possible religions and see what does fit your beliefs the best.

That makes sense. If he/she is not sure about his/her beliefs, then how will they know what fits them the best. I don't think that to be good advice in any case, it seems irrational to throw away ones initial beliefs and practices simply because they are suprised about a few things upon initial investigation.

I think it would be good to simply continue to investigate what exactly your Christian beliefs are, and search out reasons for them either here or across websites.

Kurieuo

Maybe you guys should come and take a look at the website. (http://www.neoatheism.com/forums/index.php)

Some of their arguments are pretty good, I mean, just take a look at this!

I mean, I don't think I believe in evolution, but even that is disturbing ...

I Used 2 Be Christian =( wrote:Maybe you guys should come and take a look at the website. (http://www.neoatheism.com/forums/index.php)

Some of their arguments are pretty good, I mean, just take a look at this!

I mean, I don't think I believe in evolution, but even that is disturbing ...

We have pretty much seen all of the atheist arguments around here, including that one.

That article is pretty weak, the writer is quoting scientific evidence to state there is no God? Gimme a break. Has he examined all the evidence in the universe, or is he basing his conclusion on the limited experience of sentient man over the last 50 years, observing a miniscule part of creation?

Kurieuo wrote:That makes sense. If he/she is not sure about his/her beliefs, then how will they know what fits them the best. I don't think that to be good advice in any case, it seems irrational to throw away ones initial beliefs and practices simply because they are suprised about a few things upon initial investigation.

I think it would be good to simply continue to investigate what exactly your Christian beliefs are, and search out reasons for them either here or across websites.

Kurieuo

Ok, but He/She has had their chance with Christianity, if their beliefs are not strong enough to remain Christian, or to have doubts, then maybe it is time to look somewhere else? By being on a Christian site, I take it that means he/she is looking for Christianity again, but it would be ok for him/her to branch out. If Christianity is all he/she knows, then how does he/she know what is right for him/her? He/she might just be in Christianity for the reasons of Pascal, which are no reason to believe any faith, so he/she should view all religions (or non-religions) with a non-biased standpoint. Now seems like the perfect time for him/her.

Well, I'm sure you've all heard this argument before, but could you explain the Christian point of view for me? Or maybe come to the site and do it there?

God takes life every day. I thought this was evident. Maybe you need to look up some theodicies?

Kurieuo