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Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:50 pm
by obliviousdream
Hey, everyone. I'm new here, obviously, but I wanted to ask about faith. I'm really scared that I'm not doing something right, because I believe Jesus died and rose to let us get into heaven. But I don't feel right >_>

I was raised as a Christian, but when my mother moved away from my Grandparents, I found out she was Agnostic (For her own reasons that I'm aware of, and don't really want to get into on this forum. No offence) But, since then, I haven't been to church in a while, and I think my view of Christianity got warped a little. Then I rediscovered godandscience.org, and it seriously helped me want to reaffirm my faith, and try to walk with God, and be a good Christian.

I just, for the life of me, can't feel like I'm actually with him. I feel disgusting and vile >_> and I don't think that he'd want anything to do with me. I've done somethings I'm not very proud of (Nothing wrong with the laws of this world though. 'Cept maybe speeding...but my mom drives fast. I claim heredity. :-P)

Anyway, Could someone help me sort this out? I really want to read the bible, and it's actually taking over my language studying (Which really surprises me)

Thanks for listening ^_^

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:07 pm
by cslewislover
Hi obliviousdream! I'm pretty new here myself. Could you restate that last part about reading and language, I'm just not getting it for some reason. That would make a difference in my response, I think. Anyway. Hmm. Do you think that he's truly not with you? If so, do you think it's because of the things you've done in the past that you don't like (I assume you've repented of them, right)? I don't believe Jesus would abandon you because of those things!! I've done lots of things that I'm VERY ashamed of, as I didn't become a Christian until I was 33. Sometimes those things really bother me, but it's not because of those things that I sometimes feel that Jesus is distant. When I think that, I believe it's because I haven't been trying enough to be close to him. Why haven't you gone back to church yet? Do you need to find one? I think, so far with what I know from what you wrote, that you need to read your bible (but there's still my first question above), find a good bible believing church, and pray. I myself have a hard time praying sometimes! I hate that. But anyway, please write some more.

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:50 pm
by obliviousdream
It's nothing big, really. I'm really trying to learn Japanese (And Swedish later. And hopefully at least 10 more languages before I die >_>)

It's a big part of my life, and my want of reading the bible is becoming more than the want of me to study Japanese.

Did I clear it up at all?

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:01 pm
by cslewislover
OK . . . Um . . . not really. Are you saying that you want to read the bible more and that that desire is inteferring with your studies? I feel kind-of like an idiot. If you have the desire to read the bible, Jesus must not be far away. y:-/

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:14 pm
by obliviousdream
Sorta, it's more like The "I want to study and read the bible" part of my brain is starting to beat out the "I want to study my languages" part.

It's definately not a bad thing, I just thought it was weird that something that I've invested a lot of time in is taking a backseat so willingly...if you understand what I mean. I'm definately kinda difficult to follow in a conversation...>_>;;

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:18 pm
by cslewislover
Lol, I need to leave, but will return to this board later or tomorrow. The bible is the word, the living word, and the Word is Jesus. So it's a great thing that that is taking precidence (sp?) in your life. See what Jesus wants of you, and the rest of your life will fall into place. For now, :wave:

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:55 pm
by zoegirl
obliviousdream wrote:Hey, everyone. I'm new here, obviously, but I wanted to ask about faith. I'm really scared that I'm not doing something right, because I believe Jesus died and rose to let us get into heaven. But I don't feel right >_>

I was raised as a Christian, but when my mother moved away from my Grandparents, I found out she was Agnostic (For her own reasons that I'm aware of, and don't really want to get into on this forum. No offence) But, since then, I haven't been to church in a while, and I think my view of Christianity got warped a little. Then I rediscovered godandscience.org, and it seriously helped me want to reaffirm my faith, and try to walk with God, and be a good Christian.

I just, for the life of me, can't feel like I'm actually with him. I feel disgusting and vile >_> and I don't think that he'd want anything to do with me. I've done somethings I'm not very proud of (Nothing wrong with the laws of this world though. 'Cept maybe speeding...but my mom drives fast. I claim heredity. :-P)

Anyway, Could someone help me sort this out? I really want to read the bible, and it's actually taking over my language studying (Which really surprises me)

Thanks for listening ^_^
One of the hardest things to accept in our relationships with Christ is the amazing grace that He extends to us. This grace is the most beautiful thing in the world and yet while we are stunned and overwhelmed with it it can also provoke such a sense of shame in us.

If you have read The LIon The Witch and the Wardrobe I think you can see this paradox written in the relationship between Aslan and the children. It speaks many times of the incredible draw that Aslan (a picture of Christ) has toward the children and yet the awful sense of their own inadequacy.

To be honest I would almost be worried if you didn't feel that way now. The more we as Christian realize how sinful we are, how rebellious we are, the more we appreciate that grace.

At the same time, we are often reminded by Satan and his minions of how much we sin and that shame often keeps up from growing in that relationship with Christ. It is at those moments when we need to fall down on our knees and come to the throne of Grace. After all, it was for our sins that Christ died.

I, too, have often felt that way. Charles Spurgeon writes about this often
spurgeon wrote:
Psalm 46:1
Covenant blessings are not meant to be looked at only, but to be appropriated. Even our Lord Jesus is given to us for our present use. Believer, thou dost not make use of Christ as thou oughtest to do. When thou art in trouble, why dost thou not tell him all thy grief? Has he not a sympathizing heart, and can he not comfort and relieve thee? No, thou art going about to all thy friends, save thy best Friend, and telling thy tale everywhere except into the bosom of thy Lord. Art thou burdened with this day's sins? Here is a fountain filled with blood: use it, saint, use it. Has a sense of guilt returned upon thee? The pardoning grace of Jesus may be proved again and again. Come to him at once for cleansing. Dost thou deplore thy weakness? He is thy strength: why not lean upon him? Dost thou feel naked? Come hither, soul; put on the robe of Jesus' righteousness. Stand not looking at it, but wear it. Strip off thine own righteousness, and thine own fears too: put on the fair white linen, for it was meant to wear. Dost thou feel thyself sick? Pull the night-bell of prayer, and call up the Beloved Physician! He will give the cordial that will revive thee. Thou art poor, but then thou hast “a kinsman, a mighty man of wealth.” What! wilt thou not go to him, and ask him to give thee of his abundance, when he has given thee this promise, that thou shalt be joint heir with him, and has made over all that he is and all that he has to be thine? There is nothing Christ dislikes more than for his people to make a show-thing of him, and not to use him. He loves to be employed by us. The more burdens we put on his shoulders, the more precious will he be to us.

“Let us be simple with him, then,

Not backward, stiff, or cold,

As though our Bethlehem could be

What Sinai was of old.”
I have often found him helpful to read.

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:03 pm
by obliviousdream
That was actually pretty inspiring. Thanks ^_^

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:25 pm
by zoegirl
I love reading SPurgeon....

If you liked that passage.... check out a website that shows the daily reading. http://www.ccel.org/ccel/spurgeon/morneve.d0503pm.html

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:30 pm
by obliviousdream
Oh, that totally just got bookmarked. :ebiggrin:

Thanks. I really think I should start praying more...but actually talking, like I would to a friend or a parent, right?

Maybe it'd help?

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:45 pm
by zoegirl
do you know, I have grown more in my prayer life by prayer walking. (Having a dog really helps) I don't know why but the sitting and praying times I am often distracted and my thoughts ramble, but praying and walking I seem to be more focused. And another nice thing that came from walking and praying is developing the habit. I find myself praying during the day when I am walking.

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:06 pm
by obliviousdream
I may have to try that. I'm not doing anything when I'm walking anyways, so it'd be a nice change of pace.

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:00 am
by bizzt
obliviousdream wrote:Sorta, it's more like The "I want to study and read the bible" part of my brain is starting to beat out the "I want to study my languages" part.

It's definately not a bad thing, I just thought it was weird that something that I've invested a lot of time in is taking a backseat so willingly...if you understand what I mean. I'm definately kinda difficult to follow in a conversation...>_>;;
Just a thought ;) Get a Bible in Japenese ;)

Re: Question about faith

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:28 pm
by zoegirl
great idea!