How Far Does the Universe Go?

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How Far Does the Universe Go?

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I'm not sure what scientists or creationists believe about this, but I was curious: How far does the universe go? Does it have an edge, or something? If so, what lies beyond that edge? Or maybe the universe is constantly going on. I'm not a scientist, but I do know that the universe is in a state of breakdown (entropy). It wouldn't make much sense for it to be breaking down and going on forever. Any thoughts?
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Re: How Far Does the Universe Go?

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Pretty darn far... At least 93 billion light years across.

"The Universe is very large and possibly infinite in volume; the observable matter is spread over a space at least 93 billion light years across. For comparison, the diameter of a typical galaxy is only 30,000 light-years, and the typical distance between two neighboring galaxies is only 3 million light-years. As an example, our Milky Way galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years in diameter, and our nearest sister galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy, is located roughly 2.5 million light years away. There are probably more than 100 billion (1011) galaxies in the observable universe. Typical galaxies range from dwarfs with as few as ten million (107) stars up to giants with one trillion (1012) stars, all orbiting the galaxy's center of mass."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe#S ... C_and_laws

It did have a beginning however, starting with the Big bang.

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But does it have an end? I have a hard time believing that the universe just goes on forever.
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For_Narniaaa wrote:But does it have an end? I have a hard time believing that the universe just goes on forever.
Narniaaa, scientists really can't tell... But if we look at what the Bible says it does. It is not infinite but finite. Since it has a single beginning (the Big Bang), it still would be expanding out from a single source and thus have an ending (somewhere). However, scientists now think that there could be a Multiverse but that is really philosophical and not really scientific..

The temple layout in Jerusalem also attests to the universe and God's dwelling (inside the Holy of Holies). I may post more information on that later..
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For_Narniaaa wrote:I'm not sure what scientists or creationists believe about this, but I was curious: How far does the universe go? Does it have an edge, or something? If so, what lies beyond that edge? Or maybe the universe is constantly going on. I'm not a scientist, but I do know that the universe is in a state of breakdown (entropy). It wouldn't make much sense for it to be breaking down and going on forever. Any thoughts?
My understanding is that the universe is both infinite and finite. Think of our planet for example. The earth is definitely finite, but its surface is infinite- you can keep walking forever but you'll never fall off. From what I have heard, the universe is analogous to a sphere, finite, but boundless.
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My theory is that the universe is a huge massive spherical orb that contains everything.Eventually if you go far enough everything will just loop back to where you were. Outside of this spherical orb is possibly heaven/hell. Or other spherical Orb dimensions.
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