Another false intermediate link.

[CAT]

How foolish! This is just another species of monkey. If all orangutans went extinct some 2000 years ago and we were just now digging them up, we would think they were the closest link to man. We would be saying, oh look it has the pelvis bone to walk upright, therefore it must be an intermediate link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33110809/ns ... ?GT1=43001

[BGoodForGoodSake]

May I ask how you reached the conclusion that it is just another monkey?

[touchingcloth]

How foolish! This is just another species of monkey. If all orangutans went extinct some 2000 years ago and we were just now digging them up, we would think they were the closest link to man. We would be saying, oh look it has the pelvis bone to walk upright, therefore it must be an intermediate link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33110809/ns ... ?GT1=43001

You only have to look at it to see that it's an ape, not a monkey.

Anyway, the bones were found 15 years ago and they have been pored over since - it might be wise to read some of the research that has been done in that time and reserve your judgment about how "foolish" it is until then.

[CAT]

May I ask how you reached the conclusion that it is just another monkey?

It obviously still has the ape-like skull as well as other monkey/ape features. When we are talking about "transitional forms" we need to remember that if its true that evolution occurred slowly creating small changes in living creatures, than logically there would have to be thousands of more “incomplete” transitional forms found in fossil beds than just the complete forms that we are finding which all have fully functional parts. A true transitional (intermediate) form would have malfunctioning or faulty features (like appendages) in the process of halfway changing. In other words, we cannot merely find a new species of monkey/ape and say that it is a transitional form without first finding those faulty features that added up to that particular creature exhibiting the features that it now has.

Additionally, and this is not all cut and dry because logically thinking if they were to have halfway changing features they may have been the weak link and that means they would have died. In all the arsenals of archeology, there must be at least a few that fell into water or mud or rapidly buried to become fossilized. Actually, we should NOT just be finding a few of these incomplete transitional forms, we should be finding many many more, since they would logically outnumber the fully-formed creatures. Yet we find none! But the evolutionists continue to persist that they exist.

Oh what a grand deception the deceiver has pulled over our eyes to think that we had somehow evolved!

[touchingcloth]

May I ask how you reached the conclusion that it is just another monkey?

It obviously still has the ape-like skull as well as other monkey/ape features.

Did you read the link BG provided and still come to the conclusion that monkey=ape?

When we are talking about "transitional forms" we need to remember that if its true that evolution occurred slowly creating small changes in living creatures, than logically there would have to be thousands of more “incomplete” transitional forms found in fossil beds than just the complete forms that we are finding which all have fully functional parts. A true transitional (intermediate) form would have malfunctioning or faulty features (like appendages) in the process of halfway changing.

Nothing in nature is "incomplete" or halfway to changing into anything. Nothing in nature has a goal of growing an appendage. You seem to have half-grasped this concept as you go on to say

Additionally, and this is not all cut and dry because logically thinking if they were to have halfway changing features they may have been the weak link and that means they would have died.

Absolutely - anything in nature that wasn't fully fit for purpose would be very dead indeed. In fact, for an animal to suddenly grow half a new, useless appendage would require such a massive mutation from the DNA of its parents that the DNA would in all likelihood not even be fit to develop into a live (i.e. born) individual.

[Gman]

How foolish! This is just another species of monkey. If all orangutans went extinct some 2000 years ago and we were just now digging them up, we would think they were the closest link to man. We would be saying, oh look it has the pelvis bone to walk upright, therefore it must be an intermediate link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33110809/ns ... ?GT1=43001

You don't need to convince me...