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People who know they will die and just belive in god heaven

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:25 am
by jezzer
I have a question that ive allways thought about,You hear about people who are in prison who suddenly belive in god if they know they will be dying,Or for people who are ill and belive in good because they want to go to heaven and not hell,So im thinking wouldn't god know they are just beliving so they dont go to hell.

Re: People who know they will die and just belive in god hea

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:12 am
by Canuckster1127
Of course God knows hearts. He created them.

Re: People who know they will die and just belive in god hea

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:26 am
by jezzer
Sorry might not of made it clear,I mean would they then go to heaven?Would there be anypoint turning to go at those late stages?

Re: People who know they will die and just belive in god hea

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:47 am
by B. W.
jezzer wrote:Sorry might not of made it clear,I mean would they then go to heaven?Would there be anypoint turning to go at those late stages?

The repentant thief next to Jesus on the cross was one such person who gives us an example of this; however, never count on waiting for one's own deathbed confession to cover the bases, just in case. Why, most likely will not have that chance!
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Re: People who know they will die and just belive in god hea

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:55 am
by Canuckster1127
Yes. It's entirely possible that a death bed conversion would go to heaven. Salvation is by grace based on what God does.

It flies in the face of our human sense of justice and fairness. Jesus I think has some of that objection in mind when he shared this parable.

From Matthew 20:1—16:

1 "For the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2 After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the market place; 4 and to them he said, `You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.' So they went. 5 Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing; and he said to them, `Why do you stand here idle all day?' 7 They said to him, `Because no one has hired us.' He said to them, `You go into the vineyard too.' 8 And when evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his steward, `Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last, up to the first.' 9 And when those hired about the eleventh hour came, each of them received a denarius. 10 Now when the first came, they thought they would receive more; but each of them also received a denarius. 11 And on receiving it they grumbled at the householder, 12 saying, `These last worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat.' 13 But he replied to one of them, `Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14 Take what belongs to you, and go; I choose to give to this last as I give to you. 15 Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?'"

Re: People who know they will die and just belive in god hea

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:16 am
by jezzer
Hi

Thanks for that as this had allways been in my mind.