Page 1 of 1

And as fate would have it...

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:37 pm
by derrick09
Just after I got done with these big discussion posts, I just happened to look at my AOL news headlines and I saw this...

http://www.aolnews.com/science/article/ ... 1%7C174202

The secular atheist ellite are now setting their sights on the fine tuning argument. It's like these guys along with Hawking, Dawkins and the like are wanting everyone's belief in God eliminated by year's end or dare I say, by November, just in time for the elections, I wonder why. y:-/

Re: And as fate would have it...

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:29 pm
by Gman
derrick09 wrote:Just after I got done with these big discussion posts, I just happened to look at my AOL news headlines and I saw this...

http://www.aolnews.com/science/article/ ... 1%7C174202

The secular atheist ellite are now setting their sights on the fine tuning argument. It's like these guys along with Hawking, Dawkins and the like are wanting everyone's belief in God eliminated by year's end or dare I say, by November, just in time for the elections, I wonder why. y:-/
Because they are fearful....

Re: And as fate would have it...

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:36 pm
by Swimmy
Vogt believes "that chances for life on this planet are 100 percent."
y#-o

Re: And as fate would have it...

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:42 am
by Gman
Swimmy wrote:
Vogt believes "that chances for life on this planet are 100 percent."
y#-o
So? The only way to prove it is to fly out there and check it out. No one has 100 percent proof.. It's simply not possible until they find concrete evidence. At this point they don't even know if there is water there. And even if it were true, who is to say that God couldn't produce life on other planet? :popcorn:

Re: And as fate would have it...

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:03 am
by derrick09
http://reasons.edgeboss.net/download/re ... 0-HRJZ.mp3

Hugh Ross and company's response to the recent articles on this new "earthlike" planet. :wave:

Re: And as fate would have it...

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:47 am
by Silvertusk
Another discovery showing us how lucky we are on this planet for life to exist...........

Or is there a conspiracy?

Silvertusk.

Re: And as fate would have it...

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:23 pm
by Mariolee
Doesn't this break or at least dent the apologist defense of extreme fine tuning? I mean, a lot of Creationists say that the mere fact that the Earth is the only planet that's perfectly in between the sun and the moon so that it's not too cool or hot to support life.
And yes, another argument that has been stated is that God didn't create aliens, and so if this planet supports life (even though there's ALOT we don't know about it, like its rotation, gravity, if it even HAS water, etc., but for the sake of argument) doesn't it seriously put a damper on Christian apologists. I'm new here, I actually just found this site a week ago and think it's pretty awesome. I'm not a total philosopher, but I went through some rough patches in my faith concerning science, but it's been renewed and right now I'm just trying to be the best apologist for God I can be.
For example, my atheist friend is almost rejoicing over the discovery of this Goldilocks planet because his church nails the previous arguments into his head all the time.

Re: And as fate would have it...

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:40 am
by derrick09
Again, listen to what Hugh Ross and company have to say about it, they offer a good response and show that as of now, it hasn't put a dent in the fine tuning argument.

http://reasons.edgeboss.net/download/re ... 0-HRJZ.mp3