Evidence for God from Science

There is some talk (by a prophet) that Saudi Arabia could be the next country to fall to this democracy.. If so it could cause economic turmoil here in the states.

We're only in favor of democracy for others when it's economically convenient and doesn't have any short or mid-term impact upon us?

America should fall to the democracy Its run to much by money and corporations.

I'm just getting a feeling that something bad is going to happen in the next few months.. Don't know why.

There's no doubt that there's a lot of unrest and things in that area of the world have a tendency to impact the rest of the world in a big way. It's already got my attention when I fill up my tank. That said, when Communism fell there was a lot of this going on and similar fears as to what could happen. I don't know what's going to ultimately happen.

Our brothers and sisters in Saudi Arabia are among the most persecuted in the world. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia, despite there being a large foreign worker community (e.g. 1.3m Filipinos work in the country, 90% of whom are allegedly Christian). You cannot become a citizen of Saudi Arabia unless you are a Muslim. Converts from the strict Wahhabi Sunni faith are executed (this includes converts to other Muslim denominations, such as Shia Islam). It is also alleged that 50 "Call and Guidance" centers employing 500 people operate around the country with the purpose of converting foreign workers to Islam, while proselytizing by non Muslims is illegal.

I believe that any change, even to a constitutional monarchy (from the current absolute monarchy) will be positive.

Telstra Robs wrote:Our brothers and sisters in Saudi Arabia are among the most persecuted in the world. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia, despite there being a large foreign worker community (e.g. 1.3m Filipinos work in the country, 90% of whom are allegedly Christian). You cannot become a citizen of Saudi Arabia unless you are a Muslim. Converts from the strict Wahhabi Sunni faith are executed (this includes converts to other Muslim denominations, such as Shia Islam). It is also alleged that 50 "Call and Guidance" centers employing 500 people operate around the country with the purpose of converting foreign workers to Islam, while proselytizing by non Muslims is illegal.

I believe that any change, even to a constitutional monarchy (from the current absolute monarchy) will be positive.

I'm a bit fearful of any type of unity that might jeopardize the peace of Israel. Of course when mankind get's together, it always ends up with disastrous consequences.. Even when we talk about democracy.

I use to not think this way, but I'm starting to see things differently now.

I'm getting visions of Israeli fighter jets.. Don't know why except for this base in Syria that Iran is trying to build. Prophecy tells us that the attack should come from the north.

Good for Saudi Arabia, that area has needed stability since practically the beginning of humanity.

Of course, theres no telling that the newly created democracy won't be a highly corrupt one, like Iran.

Gman wrote:There is some talk that Saudi Arabia could be the next country to fall to this democracy.. If so it could cause economic turmoil here in the states.

Beware..

Gman, what do you mean by :"fall to this democracy"? Do you mean fall to the U.S.?

I'm a bit fearful of any type of unity that might jeopardize the peace of Israel.

What peace of Israel are you referring to? Isn't Israel constantly being terrorized by muslims?

RickD wrote: Gman, what do you mean by :"fall to this democracy"? Do you mean fall to the U.S.?

Not exactly.. I'm not talking about the US. I'm talking about the democracy that is slowly starting to run the middle east. It's a different type of democracy than America where sometimes crazy people get elected.

What peace of Israel are you referring to? Isn't Israel constantly being terrorized by muslims?

True... Israel and Jews will always be persecuted because of the promises God made to them, but whenever there is this talk about a one world government, it historically always has dire consequences.. Case in point, Babylon.

True... Israel and Jews will always be persecuted because of the promises God made to them, but whenever there is this talk about a one world government, it historically always has dire consequences.. Case in point, Babylon.

I understand where you're coming from, but I'm still not sure what you mean by this:

I'm a bit fearful of any type of unity that might jeopardize the peace of Israel.

If Israel doesn't have peace now, and pretty much all of the mideast Muslim world doesn't even acknowledge Israel as a sovereign state, and have sworn out the destruction of Israel, doesn't it seem like there is no peace of Israel to be jeopardized?

RickD wrote:
Gman, what do you mean by :"fall to this democracy"? Do you mean fall to the U.S.?


Not exactly.. I'm not talking about the US. I'm talking about the democracy that is slowly starting to run the middle east. It's a different type of democracy than America where sometimes crazy people get elected.

I wasnt sure if you meant the U.S. Forcing their idea of democracy on Saudi Arabia.

RickD wrote:
If Israel doesn't have peace now, and pretty much all of the mideast Muslim world doesn't even acknowledge Israel as a sovereign state, and have sworn out the destruction of Israel, doesn't it seem like there is no peace of Israel to be jeopardized?

Believe me.. I know what's going on with Israel... What I'm saying here is what is going from bad to worse.. In fact I would advocate that democracy will be good for Israel first, then... Really bad. Perhaps I'll explain later in another post.

I wasnt sure if you meant the U.S. Forcing their idea of democracy on Saudi Arabia.

I don't think the US is forcing anything actually.. But yes democracy indirectly.

Gman wrote:

RickD wrote:
If Israel doesn't have peace now, and pretty much all of the mideast Muslim world doesn't even acknowledge Israel as a sovereign state, and have sworn out the destruction of Israel, doesn't it seem like there is no peace of Israel to be jeopardized?

Believe me.. I know what's going on with Israel... What I'm saying here is what is going from bad to worse.. In fact I would advocate that democracy will be good for Israel first, then... Really bad. Perhaps I'll explain later in another post.

I wasnt sure if you meant the U.S. Forcing their idea of democracy on Saudi Arabia.

I don't think the US is forcing anything actually.. But yes democracy indirectly.

Ok, Gman, gotcha. Just remember that God is in control, and ultimately what happens to Israel is in His hands. What so you believe the bible says is the ultimate fate of Israel?
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The quality of life tends to be highest in nations with a democratic government. I'm not sure how a country recieving democracy could be a bad thing. Even if our economy took a slight hit, I'd be all for it if it meant that people who have known opression for all of their lives could be free from it.

As for if a prophesy in Revelation is going to be fulfilled as a result, it'll happen when it happens. No sense getting angsty over it.