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Question on being saved.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:48 pm
by Dark Pony
I have a question that I would like some input on.

If someone murders, rapes, hurts, etc.. someone else and as they near the end of there life and accepts Jesus as there Lord and Savior do they go to Heaven?

It doesn't seem fair (I know God only decides what's really fair) to someone who lives there life being as good of a Christian as they can, but in the end they are on the same level as someone who did horrible deeds but the last year or two of there life decide they better get right with God....

Any thoughts?

Re: Question on being saved.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:02 pm
by Echoside
Dark Pony wrote:I have a question that I would like some input

If someone murders, rapes, hurts, etc.. someone else and as they near the end of there life and accepts Jesus as there Lord and Savior do they go to Heaven?

It doesn't seem fair (I know God only decides what's really fair) to someone who lives there life being as good of a Christian as they can, but in the end they are on the same level as someone who did horrible deeds but the last year or two of there life decide they better get right with God....

Any thoughts?
Short answer : Yes

Longer answer : I don't think it seems fair that ANYONE would go to heaven, the grace is all through God. Anyone who accepts Jesus is saved, end of story. The thing is, you can't just say "oh I've been murdering for a good 20 years, alright Jesus i'd like to accept you as my savior". Well you could, but without a real change of heart and regret you might as well keep on killing. You cannot bluff your way into heaven.

If an evil person sees the light and becomes a God-loving missionary for Christ you should rejoice that the lost person has been found, rather than point out all the wrongs in their life. The parable of the prodigal son is a good illustration of this.

Re: Question on being saved.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:07 pm
by Dark Pony
Echoside wrote:
You cannot bluff your way into heaven.
Good point!
If an evil person sees the light and becomes a God-loving missionary for Christ you should rejoice that the lost person has been found, rather than point out all the wrongs in their life. The parable of the prodigal son is a good illustration of this.
You know it's funny to me that this is such a simple answer , yet for some reason I never really thought about it this way. Very well said.

I think I was so focused on thinking "how can a murderer get into heaven" I didn't stop to think if they TRULY accept God, then it should be time for joy! Thank you for your input.

Re: Question on being saved.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:12 pm
by Echoside
Dark Pony wrote: I think I was so focused on thinking "how can a murderer get into heaven" I didn't stop to think if they TRULY accept God, then it should be time for joy! Thank you for your input.

No problem, glad to help :D

Re: Question on being saved.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:16 pm
by RickD
Look at the apostle Paul, who was Saul of Tarsus. See what Saul did to Christians before God spoke to him.

Re: Question on being saved.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:31 pm
by Dark Pony
RickD wrote:Look at the apostle Paul, who was Saul of Tarsus. See what Saul did to Christians before God spoke to him.
I'll def. research that. I'm currently studying the Bible a little more in depth, and I still have lots to learn. I recently began looking into false prophets (yes because of Harold Camping May 21 prophecy) and learned a ton. Interested in learning more! The Bible is a very interesting book to learn.

Re: Question on being saved.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:15 pm
by kevdog19
why do you think all these priests rape little boys, they can always just repent later. It's one of the fundamental flaws of Christianity. So no I believe that all actions have karmic reprocussions.