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Just Watched "Jesus Camp"

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:20 am
by eric246
It was pretty depressing. It's another movie that depicts Christians as crazy people because a select group of people are extremists. Has anyone else seen the movie?

Re: Just Watched "Jesus Camp"

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:01 am
by Canuckster1127
Heard about it. Haven't seen it.

There are factions and sects of so-called Christian movements that are indeed very dangerous and depressing.

Re: Just Watched "Jesus Camp"

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:29 am
by B. W.
eric246 wrote:It was pretty depressing. It's another movie that depicts Christians as crazy people because a select group of people are extremists. Has anyone else seen the movie?
Saw clips from it on a news report - a very bias an extremist leftist depiction of another extremist group...

Another fine living example of Saul Alinsky's - Rules for Radicals - rules 4, 5, 8, and 13 at work: see below...
RULE 4: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity

RULE 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counter attack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

RULE 13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame. The real action is in the enemy’s reaction. The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.

RULE 8: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose

Dostoevski said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution.
— Saul Alinsky — Rules for Radicals, prologue
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Re: Just Watched "Jesus Camp"

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:08 pm
by narnia4
Wow, that quote about ridicule accurately describes the VAST majority of my encounters with "internet atheists". Ridicule is, unfortunately, a very effective weapon. In the past there's been several times that I was made to feel like I was stupid when the atheist wasn't even saying anything of value OR when he was only describing a small number of people. After a while I finally "got used to it", and it was astounding to realize how little substantial reason/argumentation was there.

I haven't seen the documentary, but from what I've heard I'd imagine it's the same sort of thing.

Re: Just Watched "Jesus Camp"

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:15 pm
by Murray
The reason atheist resort to spam and hate spewing is because they know at that point they have lost the debate